k40 super 8 demise - velvia?

[camera8mm]

I was reading on the wikipedia site about kodachrome and there was a note which said the demise of kodachrome 40 was partly due to velvia stock.
I dont know who wrote this, but i dont think its true since velvia isnt readily available in super 8 nor is the fact that kodak's manufacturing processes were changed (kodak claimed) due to enviornmental concerns plus kodak's bottom line- were not mentioned at all on wikipedia.

[CHAS]

I was reading on the wikipedia site about kodachrome and there was a note which said the demise of kodachrome 40 was partly due to velvia stock.

The two have nothing to do with each other. The velvia did not come out until K40 was gone or almost gone. There are stupid people everywhere.

[MIKI-814]

Wikipedia is Wikipedia, not to confuse with a real enciclopedia :lol:

[jpolzfuss]

Hi,

a) The Wikipedia doesn't mention the K40 at all! (s. below)
b) The Wikipedia-entry is -of course- only for Fuji's SLIDE film since the Super8/Single8/DS8/R8/9.5mm-versions aren't official Fuji-products and hence have to be sold under a different name!

In other words: I agree that the Wikipedia is far from being complete or 100% correct. But this doesn't prevent you from reading and understanding the entries before quoting/judging them! ;)

Jörg

Quote from the Wikipedia:

Velvia was introduced in 1990 and quickly replaced Kodachrome 25 as the industry standard in high-definition color film. It had brighter and generally more accurate color reproduction, finer grain, twice the speed, and a more convenient process (E-6). Kodachrome 25 fell out of popularity a few years after Velvia was introduced, and Kodachrome 64 and 200 have followed more slowly. Many photographers credit Velvia with ending the Kodachrome era.

[Tyler]

which said the demise kodachrome 40 was partly due to velvia stock

On wikipedia it says the kodachrome 25 (35mm still picture film) was discontinued partly due to velvia.

[Angus]

The wikipedia is correct. KODACHROME 25 35mm slide film sales were hit by Fuji's more modern Velvia 50 which in many respects is superior.

It has nothing whatsoever to do with super 8 Kodachrome 40, but then the article isn't trying to say that.

Serious academic studies show that the Wikipedia is as accurate as the Encyclopedia Britanica.

[wado1942]

You want to know why K40 is no more? It costs a ton of money to make/develop so there's no profit margine.

[freddiesykes]

Velvia 50 is great.

Serious academic studies show that the Wikipedia is as accurate as the Encyclopedia Britanica.

It really depends upon the subject matter. Just an hour's worth of simple browsing will come across many factual, fully bloated, informative articles based on meaningless pop culture like Harry Potter, Star Trek etc. while subjects that require lengthy, well contstructed articles are very vague and sparse. I guess it just depends on demographics and popularity and the willingness to take one's time to create articles.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that there are many people willing to expand articles on Harry Potter but not too many astro-physicists who want to dedicate their time to something like Wikipedia. Not to say a student won't..

[aj]

Many of the wikipedia contents I read was politically biased. Left, right, anti-US, anti-EU, anti-something. I.e. are hate-driven. Also many articles need severe editing or are incomplete. Furthermore people post links to their personally advocated topics.
A commercially published encyclopedia doesn't get plastered with spam overnight like the super8 wiki. Especially not the paper version

[John_Pytlak]

Competition had nothing to do with KODACHROME Super-8 film being discontinued by Kodak. Kodak still has five different Super-8 films available:

http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/s8mm/ ... 4.14&lc=en

http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/s8mm/ ... 14.4&lc=en

For 35mm Motion Picture use, you have a Kodak 100-speed color reversal motion picture film designed for daylight. Whether you're shooting ads, music videos, documentaries, television, or features, it delivers intensely saturated color, plus a neutral gray scale and accurate skin tones. All with a sharpness you won't find in any other 100-speed reversal film:

http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/produ ... .6.4&lc=en

[David M. Leugers]

Thanks for wading in John, good to hear from you! This topic has been beaten around the bush more than a few times. I just like to remind everyone that Kodachrome's life was extended for about 15 years past the time Kodak wanted to pull the plug on it. They had reasonable reasons for it, the love we users had (including the fans who worked for Kodak) notwithstanding. I am very grateful for those extra years of being able to shoot Kodachrome. However, the E100D is simply a fabulous stock. With the report that the E-6 films only lose about 10% of their color after 50 years means the E100D is an excellent archival stock. This is on par with the Kodachrome shot prior to K-40 and we all know how great Kodachrome shot 50+ years ago still look.


Wikipedia is absolutely free, and worth every penny...


David M. Leugers

[Jean Poirier]

Yes indeed, great to read you John.