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mattias wrote:
freddiesykes wrote:I don't get why it's so large..
cause otherwise the camera wouldn't fit? ;-)

seriously, it looks to me like a snug fit? do you mean bulky? well, a square box is cheaper to build than one that's shaped like a camera i guess. so, conclusion: a fairly nice blimp at a ridiculously high price. the lens collar is the only semi advanced feature. the rest is just a box.

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I don't get the sync-sound thing at all, actually. We're using 2.5 minute cartridges at 24fps, so I just use my clapper with a digital recording device, and I never have noticed my takes getting out of sync in any significant way anyway. Why do you even need a blimp anymore (at least at our level)?

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The blimp has nothing to do with getting takes in synch nor does it eliminate the need for a clapper.

I use it because S8 cameras are loud enough to be picked up by mics and usually I have the S8 camera as a cutaway camera rolling along with either video or S16. I also have shot in a sound studio with it during a live recording session with an orchestra.
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Number6 wrote:I don't get the sync-sound thing at all
obviously. :-)

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Hi,

there's a similar blimp-box called "Uniblimp" in issue 09/1979 of "Film & Video". It should be suited for all cameras smaler than an Agfa 10 mos sound.

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sarmoti wrote:The blimp has nothing to do with getting takes in synch nor does it eliminate the need for a clapper.

I use it because S8 cameras are loud enough to be picked up by mics and usually I have the S8 camera as a cutaway camera rolling along with either video or S16. I also have shot in a sound studio with it during a live recording session with an orchestra.
Guess either my 814 has been quiet enough not to be a bother so far, or I'm using really lousy mics.
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Not that the cameras are extremely loud but they're just loud enough for their rattle to be be picked up in most situations. I don't think there's a single S8 camera that's so quiet that you can't hear it at all from a foot away, it's a problem when you're in a sound studio or a couple feet away from a boom mic.
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Depends on what you are recording. Rock bands at 6 feet? Heavy street traffic? Airport runways? Factory assembly lines? You won't hear a Super 8 camera under those conditions.

The problem of camera noise shows up primarily in a studio, where the hum of lights is noticable enough to require attention. If you are shooting closeups of actors talking quietly, you will definately pick up camera noise, and the noise changes with each setup, so your edited film will have noise go up and down with each edit. Very distracting. It's better to eliminate camera noise at the beginning.
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audadvnc wrote:Depends on what you are recording. Rock bands at 6 feet? Heavy street traffic? Airport runways? Factory assembly lines? You won't hear a Super 8 camera under those conditions.

The problem of camera noise shows up primarily in a studio, where the hum of lights is noticable enough to require attention. If you are shooting closeups of actors talking quietly, you will definately pick up camera noise, and the noise changes with each setup, so your edited film will have noise go up and down with each edit. Very distracting. It's better to eliminate camera noise at the beginning.
Yeah, alot of my stuff has been outdoors but I did one last year that was set in a cafe that I haven't post-produced yet. No blimp. Guess I'll find out eventually how loud it was.

Any poor-man's tips for lowering noise? I guess I could always wrap the camera in a towel . . .

Or re-record all the dialogue.
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Wrap the camera in leather (like a barney) or place it in an aquarium tank???

audadvnc, it's not to often that I get to record in places thart have much ambient noise, in the vast majority of shoots you try to only capture dialog and preferably no ambient noises whatsoever.
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sarmoti wrote:Wrap the camera in leather (like a barney) or place it in an aquarium tank???
An aquarium? That is a good idea. I suppose I'm supposed to come up with some sort of remote system for the camera, however. Little difficult to press a button in there.

(Most of the cameras I've bought can use remotes but don't have them anymore.)
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Number6 wrote:Guess either my 814 has been quiet enough not to be a bother so far
that depends on the scene of course, but unless you're shooting outdoors in traffic near a factory or airport with the camera at least 10 meters away it's completely impossible that you haven't had noise problems. perhaps you're not very picky or you haven't really been listening?

(i have an 814e and it's loud as hell and not even the xls can be called anything but that)

EDIT: i wrote this before i read your later posts. let us know your experience after having heard the cafe scene.

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sarmoti wrote:Wrap the camera in leather (like a barney) or place it in an aquarium tank???
I've had good luck throwing my padded leather jacket over the camera. Of course I get cold faster...
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I used a thick wool military blanket once. Worked at 3 metres away, any closer you could hear a small hum.
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I think this is even stupider.

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wow, if an empty spool is worth at least $15 i'm almost a millionaire.

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