super8 --> miniDV projector questions

[shecky]

hi all - first post, but i have been reading the forum a lot over the past week or so - lots of great insight and information here.

i am just getting into S8 (recently got a Bauer Royal 8E Makro off ebay), and i will need to eventually transfer my footage to MiniDV for later editing in Final Cut Pro and After Effects for use in my personal, student and professional work in graphic design + motion graphics. i already have a Canon Elura 65 miniDV camera, and i am looking for an S8 projector to do very straightforward DIY style transfer (record a projection off the wall.)

i know that for most, quality (within a budget) is the number one issue in doing these kinds of transfers, but the kind of work i do (currently on DV, and now soon on S8 ) having a top-quality transfer is not as important as doing this within a reasonable budget and being able to do it at anytime, day or night - hence the DIY solution. so with this in mind, i am looking for an inexpensive projector that will give me reasonable quality to get the S8 into digital format. i will basically never do anything with the projector other than do these DIY transfers, so needing to make the image large enough for audience projection or use in a lit room, etc.. is of no concern to me. i also have no interest in dual format or in using any sound at all. after doing my reading on here, it seems like the only thing i must have is continuously variable speed to eliminate flicker.

it seems like most people like the Sankyo 1000H or 2000H, as well as some Eumigs and a few others. considering my needs and budget (id really like to get the projector for under $50 off ebay, etc.) can you make any other recommendations for me?

thanks!

EDIT: i should also mention that of anyone is looking to sell a suitable projector please let me know

[Arislan]

Eumig 610D but don't project on the wall, get a Glasscreen. I think the URL is http://www.glasscreen.com

[audadvnc]

I don't know if glass screens are your best bet. Some users of this type of setup complain of "hot spots" that are impossible to control. I've done "off the wall" transfers which are free and not susceptible to hot spots. Try the no-cost method first; don't expect professional transfer quality, but you have something to show on your TV.

If you decide you want a better look you can send your films to a telecine facility and get very nice transfers, for a price. Or you can buy a Workprinter and start your own transfer house.

[mattias]

yes, i've gotten the smoothest results off a piece of printer paper. and yes, variable speed is really all you need to look for.

/matt

[mattias]

wow, i just realized that a glasscreen is a *back projection* screen. had i known i wouldn't have been so kind in my last reply. i thought it was just a regular projection screen and wanted to point out that even that is not the best solution. so, in the new light: do you sell these or are you blind? i seriously can't imagine any other option.

/matt

[Mr. Apathy]

yeah, use printer paper or a piece of foamcore that is matte in texture. you can also play around with slightly gray "screens" to up contrast and make blacks a little darker.

[stickan]

I like my Elmo K110 very much for it's smooth run and wide range of speed with very little flickering. I got mine very cheap, nearly unused from an old man nearby.
I have better optics on my more expensive Elmo GS 1200 sound projector which I also use on the smaller silent projector.

Seen one of these on german ebay today http://cgi.ebay.de/Super-normal-8-Proje ... dZViewItem
I'm not selling or in any way aquainted to this seller, so no guarantees.

[shecky]

sorry, but there is no way in hell i would ever consider spending €124 on something that is as unnecessary as a glasscreen - maybe you did not quite understand that i want to do this on a small budget. also that projector is not a continuously variable speed unit (according to the specs i found at least) - therefore of no use to me.

thanks for the mention of the Elmo - is that a continuously variable speed? i cannot seem to find any actual specs on it anywhere. also is the wattage of the lamp the only difference between the sankyo dualux 1000 and 2000?

[Evan Kubota]

A piece of A4 paper works fine. If you can get a camera with a 'clear scan' feature (shutter speeds calibrated to remove flicker at various frequencies, meant for recording from CRTs) that would probably be a better alternative than a projector with continuously variable frame rates. I prefer to record as close to the filmed speed as possible.

[Arislan]

I thought glasscreens were all the rage around here :lol: