Kodak awakens, new S8 camera announced at CES '16

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Re: Kodak awakens, new S8 camera announced at CES '16

Post by Andreas Wideroe » Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:56 pm

Does anyone have any updates on this camera? Are we going to see the first batch this summer like the rumours are saying? Will the price be $2000?

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Re: Kodak awakens, new S8 camera announced at CES '16

Post by Tscan » Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:09 pm

Last I heard, they were anticipating May 2017 for the target release date. I tried to get ahold of a rep last month, we exchanged a few massages, but only got to sign up to order once they are availabe. So I'm just patiently waiting to see what May brings. It's still 6 months behind the initial target, so more delays won't be good.
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Re: Kodak awakens, new S8 camera announced at CES '16

Post by Angus » Sun Apr 23, 2017 11:28 am

There was a pre-production model preview a few months ago.

it is highly unusual for such a product to actually be delivered according to the original timescale.

Looking at all the available info (and not rumours/requests) there will be more than one version of the camera. The initial release is hoped to be late Spring 2017, probably the more expensive version with other options becoming available in late 2017 when the new Ektachrome is expected to be online.
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Post by Tscan » Sun May 07, 2017 3:54 am

May is here and no word on the release. Now it's sounding like fall? Has anyone heard anything?
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Re: Kodak awakens, new S8 camera announced at CES '16

Post by bradagua » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:25 pm

just saw an article from the UK claiming the standard, non Limited edition version will start at $2000. Is that actually true? That seems really high for something that ultimately delivers a limited image. I have 3 super 8 cameras right now that work fine and I haven't spent even half of that.


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Re: Kodak awakens, new S8 camera announced at CES '16

Post by BobHobbs » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:12 pm

Do you have a link to the article?
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Re: Kodak awakens, new S8 camera announced at CES '16

Post by Tscan » Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:36 am

http://www.hometoys.com/article/2017/04 ... over/36449
This is from April and still confirms the Limited will be $2000 with cheaper mass produced models later. I believe they are making 2000 of the Limited. Another article I saw posted on FB states Sept 2017 as the latest target release. I wish we were getting more info from Kodak instead of random publications. It's not like they are up against anyone with this product, it's just them and their supporters.
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Re: Kodak awakens, new S8 camera announced at CES '16

Post by Will2 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:52 pm

This is what I find interesting from that article...
"The real break through is the S-8’s real-time digital sound. Just slip in an SD card and record one lip- synchronous audio file per take. After shooting, connect the camera or SD card to a computer, drag the audio file underneath the digitalized film[and start editing].”
Can't imagine it's really that simple...to make that work Kodak would have to do some serious work on the film scans.

One way could be each time you press the trigger on the camera you'd get a separate scan file instead of one long continuous scan. Maybe even number each file so you know which audio file to drop on to it? Seems like they could develop software to automatically separate each take as a video file; Resolve can do that with auto "take" detection. Just seems like a lot of work for Kodak to have to do.


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Re: Kodak awakens, new S8 camera announced at CES '16

Post by Nicholas Kovats » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:11 pm

Logmar may have implemented the same audio design as their original Beta canera. Each camera start/stop is synchronized to a sequential stamped audio file with a unique file file number. However, it never worked in the original Logmar camera.

Coupled with the camera's digital servo motor/sprocket which is referenced to a crystal time source on the motherboard. The time source is literally military spec to the micro-second.

My point being is that there is miniscule audio or image frame drift. Would be easy to line up sync in a NLE.
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Re: Kodak awakens, new S8 camera announced at CES '16

Post by grainy » Fri Jun 30, 2017 6:45 am

I still think the larger issue with audio is going to be camera noise. The motor is going to have to be very very quiet to be spinning a super 8 cart, unless there's something about the new design that's better insulated than it appears.
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Re: Kodak awakens, new S8 camera announced at CES '16

Post by Will2 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:07 pm

Nicholas Kovats wrote:
Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:11 pm
Logmar may have implemented the same audio design as their original Beta canera. Each camera start/stop is synchronized to a sequential stamped audio file with a unique file file number. However, it never worked in the original Logmar camera.
So each start/stop will be sent back to the user as a separate scan file properly named to match the digital audio? Seems difficult implementation but also the only way it would work without some serious human intervention.


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Re: Kodak awakens, new S8 camera announced at CES '16

Post by Nicholas Kovats » Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:30 pm

No Will. Not referring to outside scans. I was referring to the Logmar's internal process.
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Re: Kodak awakens, new S8 camera announced at CES '16

Post by Tscan » Sat Jul 01, 2017 12:18 am

Maybe it records to the SD card only when the cart it rolling?
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Re: Kodak awakens, new S8 camera announced at CES '16

Post by Nicholas Kovats » Sat Jul 01, 2017 12:20 am

That is correct.


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Re: Kodak awakens, new S8 camera announced at CES '16

Post by Tscan » Sat Jul 01, 2017 5:41 pm

Crystal sync is all i need after doing it the hard way enough times. I'm used to separate recordings, wild sync, audio drift, and plenty of it. I have a nice little 4 track recorder now too. Not having any drift for once will be luxurious enough for me.
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