decided to shoot more often with a small camera

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 4:33 am

These days I have only been shooting super 8 on trips overseas or for school projects. That means I shoot very little super 8. I want to shoot more, but super 8 cameras look like guns and nobody knows what the hell they are anymore in the US. Overseas its no big deal, but in the US I get looks when I use it in public (not the good kind). The only thing saving me from encountering problems has been the fact that proffessors and dozens of students were present. So I have decided to sacrifice features for the size and shape of the camera (there is no way it could be mistaken for a gun). I just got a minolta pocket 8 for $1.99. I know its slim on features, but its better than shooting nothing at all. Anybody use them before?

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Post by **timdrage** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:42 am

Looks really nice!

I recieved my Fujica P2 this morning, it's so cute! :mrgreen: Even smaller than I imagined. Will be great to have a camera I can take everywhere... and to shoot Fuji just like Chris Doyle! :lol:

Really unfortunate about the gun thing, crazy stuff. It's not so bad here in the UK, people may be perplexed by super-8 but we're not quite so paranoid... or at least not in the same way!

Tho it is pretty scary to see police with submachineguns wondering around the houses of parliment etc. :evil:

Post by **sunrise** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:54 am

What features do you get in a small cam like that? Would you have to rely on auto-exposure-asa setting-18 fps?

michael

YouTube · Post by **Andreas Wideroe** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 10:08 am

I'd like to follow up on Sunrise's question: Are there any small cameras that can film 24fps and have manual exposure control (and possibly other functions)?

I have an Eumig Mini 3, but this only does 18fps as I can tell.

Andreas

Post by **boohoo** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 3:06 am

no opinions on going small?

Nobody been hassled over the gun like shape of super 8 cameras?

Post by **8th Man** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 6:00 am

How about the Quartz/Kinoflex wind up? Take off the handle and the zoom lens and youve got a very compact camera. I took it to Ireland and it performed pretty darn decently.

Post by **Splee** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 10:23 am

I recently got given a Canon AF310XL, which is pretty small and compact, and I was so impressed with it that I sold my much heavier and more fiddly Chinon 872 Auto Zoom. It was a nice camera, but the Canon produces far better results and I like the "point and shoot" nature of it. Yes, it's only 18fps, auto exposure and auto focus, but it's more than adequate for the sort of filming I do, and so I'm happy. I was amazed at the vibrancy of the colours on the films I've shot with it - very impressive.

I also picked up 2 very compact clockwork regular 8mm cams recently, a Bell & Howell 624EE which I sold, and a Brownie 8mm Movie Camera Model II. This latter is a lovely thing which purrs sweetly like the day it was made, and I intend to use it more in the future for one reason - Fomapan 100. It's lovely contrasty film that produces great results at a good price. Shame they don't sell it in Super 8 cartridges, but the Brownie is a lovely camera so no problems there.

Post by **unxetas** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 3:48 pm

oh but they do sell DS8 film, which you can slit and load on reloadable super8 carts! the results are great, and I'm quite sure my footage with fomapan and the kaccemas is a lot more stable than my K40's..

Post by **boohoo** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 4:16 pm

The eumig mini 3 and fujica p2 are close to the size of the minolta pocket 8, but all the others you guys mentined are almost twice the size. The picture scale is not very clear, but the minolta is near the size of an old point and shoot 35mm AF camera. I had a canon af310xl, I didn't like it much and I sold it. It also looks like a gun. I live in the USA and sometimes there are people around who just don't get it. The last thing I want is to lose a couple hours of my day talking to a security guard or police officer.

Post by **Nigel** » Sun Oct 10, 2004 6:50 am

I have an Eumig Mini5 that I use in an Underwater housing. It does 9,18 and 24fps. Great camera and super smal for a full function S8.

Good Luck

Post by **timdrage** » Sun Oct 10, 2004 6:29 pm

no opinions on going small?

Nobody been hassled over the gun like shape of super 8 cameras?

How about you get one of these:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... eName=WD2V

That would be pretty inconspicuous!

Post by **rick201** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:47 pm

Hi timdrage,
Thats a bludy ROCKET LAUNCHER !! how about filming with that near an airport and you would never be seen again !!

Happy filming everybody..
From Rick

YouTube · Post by **wahiba** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:44 am

The Fuji P2 is definitely King of the compacts. I used to use it as a bench mark for video cameras to attain and judging by what is now on offer some have nearly got there.

It certainly proved a great camera to take on holiday, especially when backpacking. I recently aquired a couple of cartridges which when I run them through will process myself and then try reloading with FOMA DS8 split before use.

For compactness, but not weight saving, the Regular8 Bolex and Bell and Howell Sportsters are hard to beat, but no zoom lens.

Post by **studiocarter** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 10:26 am

A retired engineer friend of mine, he's like 80 something, used to shoot 16mm with a preset lens in his Keystone A7 'brick' camera. It'll fit into a big pocket. The lens is preset to 25 feet focus or so and the iris is the only adjustment. I could not tell the difference between projected films made with that camera and later his Bolex H16 with 3 different lenses that focused. Unless, that is, he was shooting a title board. That is where the ability to focus up close showed clearly. Otherwise, he guesstamated the exposure with a Weston 715 light meter, pointed and shot. All the films were Kodachrome and looked fantastic. If he wanted a closer image, he moved in closer. Shooting only on bright sunny days, a must for ASA 10 film, exposure settings were soon memorized.

Post by **studiocarter** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:20 am

Here are instructions on loading the 50 ft film mags for 16mm tiny cameras.
ftp://ftp.filmshooting.com/upload/brochures/50ft.zip

I've done it with old used film and got the things to work. And, I've used one from the bay and had it developed with good results. This format is a viable option to consider. It'll take a little practice and fiddling with but would be 16mm

Michael C

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decided to shoot more often with a small camera

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