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Copter for Logmar

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The Logmar, without battery, is about 1.5 kg.

Not sure what a battery and lens ( + gimbal?) will add. Anyone know of any copters under $2K that might carry say 3kg?

I found a copter that can carry 2 kg - available Jan 2015:

https://erlerobotics.com/blog/product/erle-copter/

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1149 Euro (presumably +VAT for non-educational purchasers) with best optional add-ons (mostly necessities!). Oh, for a bottomless pocket!

Where the hell did I go wrong in my working life? Or was I just born too early..... into a time when we had to sweat for what we got, with nothing left over for indulgences?
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granfer wrote:1149 Euro (presumably +VAT for non-educational purchasers) with best optional add-ons (mostly necessities!). Oh, for a bottomless pocket!

Where the hell did I go wrong in my working life? Or was I just born too early..... into a time when we had to sweat for what we got, with nothing left over for indulgences?
Some of us still sweat outthere to buy make and Dev Film < FILMMAKEING and PHOTOGRAPHY has never been cheap ? of the sliver kind , if you have the bucks then goodluck ! because this kind of way of filming is anew vision ? for the richer ones .
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Re: Copter for Logmar

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Just for the record - I myself ain't rich - some months of the year I barely have enough, week to week, to afford bus travel into town. So in that respect I can't afford a copter myself as such. But I can sell the idea of it to those who can afford it: ie. sell the idea of flying a film camera through the air, under digitally controlled moves. And that would pay for the copter. And the camera, etc.

Its only because some people I've been talking with have been working with copters shooting architecture (they are architects) - but they are using (of course) lightweight digital cameras. I mentioned the Logmar I'm getting and they were very keen to shoot film on a copter. However the copters they are using are not quite strong enough for the Logmar. But they are dead keen on shooting film on a copter - as am I. So if they can pay for it, I can do it for 'em.

Alternatively, I could put on a ski mask, and in the dead of night, break into the copter shop and acquire one. But I'd be completely hopeless at that.

There was a filmmaker whose films I saw in the late 70s - can't recall his name - but he specialised in shooting film of buildings from a helicopter. Nothing else - just buildings, but with such tender loving care - extraordinarily beautiful shots that would move in very gently on details of a building, high up in the air, as if in a dream - astral travelling? Very long takes. Extremely hallucinatory. Not sure if he shot on 16 or 35 - what I saw of his work was on 16mm prints. He eventually died in a helicopter crash.

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You dont have to justify yourself after those silly remarks.

Before starting out with copters you better research the need for (future)permits and such. Things have been restricted severely and quickly here in Netherlands. Rightfully so. These copters are a danger to the privacy and safety of people on the ground. Losing control or doing something wrong and smacking your 3kg Logmar with the copter into somebody's face is going to cost you more than the logmar.

Possibly better to stay with a rental with pilot service. Should a customer want to have one used you charge just for the renting of the thing.
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aj wrote:You dont have to justify yourself after those silly remarks.

Before starting out with copters you better research the need for (future)permits and such. Things have been restricted severely and quickly here in Netherlands. Rightfully so. These copters are a danger to the privacy and safety of people on the ground. Losing control or doing something wrong and smacking your 3kg Logmar with the copter into somebody's face is going to cost you more than the logmar.

Possibly better to stay with a rental with pilot service. Should a customer want to have one used you charge just for the renting of the thing.
Thanks AJ. Yes, I'm not up on the regulations here in Australia but the architects with which I was speaking have been using a copter so they'll know what's involved there.

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I would just stick with functional but expendable $15 cameras when it comes to flying one through the air. A $3.5K Logmar would be my last choice.
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Would a tethered balloon do the same job up to a height of 100metres or so? You could hang the camera underneath, provide some fins to the balloon for stability in wind and the camera could itself hang from a motorised jig for panning and tilted with power possibly sent up the tether.
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JeremyC wrote:Would a tethered balloon do the same job up to a height of 100metres or so? You could hang the camera underneath, provide some fins to the balloon for stability in wind and the camera could itself hang from a motorised jig for panning and tilted with power possibly sent up the tether.
That is how it used to work :) Copters are far more versatile and if you would need to construct the jig and platform from scratch it may very well prove that the copter is the economical thing to do. If permitted which it is often not in built up areas.
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