At a bit of a loss
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At a bit of a loss
Hi everyone,
In my retirement, I am returning to film shooting, but am now unaware of the reversal film available.
I have Standard (Regular)8; Super 8 and 16mm cine cameras all in perfect working order, and would like your recommendations for both monochrome reversal and colour reversal film for all these gauges, plus where is the best place to get them processed.
With the demise of Kodak; and Dwaynes having now ceased processing Kodachrome, I am unsure of the way forward.
Any and all suggestions gratefully received.
With kindest regards to all,
In my retirement, I am returning to film shooting, but am now unaware of the reversal film available.
I have Standard (Regular)8; Super 8 and 16mm cine cameras all in perfect working order, and would like your recommendations for both monochrome reversal and colour reversal film for all these gauges, plus where is the best place to get them processed.
With the demise of Kodak; and Dwaynes having now ceased processing Kodachrome, I am unsure of the way forward.
Any and all suggestions gratefully received.
With kindest regards to all,
Dave.
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Hi,
currently you'll encounter mainly these two colour reversal films: Kodak Ektachrome 100D and Fuji Velvia/Velvia 50D:
* The Ektachrome is available from Kodak in Super8 and 16mm, some other companies sometimes sell it as Reg8 as well.
* The Velvia is a slide-film that has been made available in Reg8/Super8/Single8/DS8/16mm by some other companies.
b&w reversal:
* Fomapan R100 (available from Foma as slide, ds8, reg8 and 16mm), filled into super8-carts by at least two other companies.
* Kodak Tri-X is available from Kodak in Super8 and 16mm, some other companies sometimes sell it as Reg8 as well.
* There are also some Orwo-b&w-filmstocks that can be processed as reversal, e.g. ORWO UN 54, which is available in 16mm/35mm directly from Filmotec, but at least also filled into Super8-carts by some other companies.
* You might also encounter some more b&w-filmstocks.
As you're in the UK, the easiest starting point might be these links:
http://www.bluecinetech.co.uk/
http://widescreen-centre.co.uk/Catalogu ... _Film.html
http://widescreen-centre.co.uk/Catalogu ... _Film.html
http://widescreen-centre.co.uk/Catalogu ... _Film.html
http://www.camcentre.co.uk/shopindex.php?cPath=85
http://www.stanleysonline.co.uk/category-193.htm
http://www.stanleysonline.co.uk/category-231.htm
However there are some more shops in the UK selling film-stock. Some of them are listed here:
http://super8wiki.com/index.php/Categor ... ed_Kingdom
Jörg
currently you'll encounter mainly these two colour reversal films: Kodak Ektachrome 100D and Fuji Velvia/Velvia 50D:
* The Ektachrome is available from Kodak in Super8 and 16mm, some other companies sometimes sell it as Reg8 as well.
* The Velvia is a slide-film that has been made available in Reg8/Super8/Single8/DS8/16mm by some other companies.
b&w reversal:
* Fomapan R100 (available from Foma as slide, ds8, reg8 and 16mm), filled into super8-carts by at least two other companies.
* Kodak Tri-X is available from Kodak in Super8 and 16mm, some other companies sometimes sell it as Reg8 as well.
* There are also some Orwo-b&w-filmstocks that can be processed as reversal, e.g. ORWO UN 54, which is available in 16mm/35mm directly from Filmotec, but at least also filled into Super8-carts by some other companies.
* You might also encounter some more b&w-filmstocks.
As you're in the UK, the easiest starting point might be these links:
http://www.bluecinetech.co.uk/
http://widescreen-centre.co.uk/Catalogu ... _Film.html
http://widescreen-centre.co.uk/Catalogu ... _Film.html
http://widescreen-centre.co.uk/Catalogu ... _Film.html
http://www.camcentre.co.uk/shopindex.php?cPath=85
http://www.stanleysonline.co.uk/category-193.htm
http://www.stanleysonline.co.uk/category-231.htm
However there are some more shops in the UK selling film-stock. Some of them are listed here:
http://super8wiki.com/index.php/Categor ... ed_Kingdom
Jörg
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Thank you Jorg,
Your reply is most helpful. It certainly gives me a place to start.
Cheers,
Your reply is most helpful. It certainly gives me a place to start.
Cheers,
Dave.
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If you are looking at reversal because you like to project your films, you can also go the negative route and have a work print made in Super 8 or 16mm.
If you are transferring your films to the computer for editing, negative stocks are a great option with much more latitude. Modern negative stocks like the Vision 3 line have come a very long way and most telecine systems are calibrated better for negative stocks.
If you are transferring your films to the computer for editing, negative stocks are a great option with much more latitude. Modern negative stocks like the Vision 3 line have come a very long way and most telecine systems are calibrated better for negative stocks.
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Hi Will2,
Yes, the reason is because I project all my films. I'll certainly give your suggestion some thought - might be a more expensive route, though.
Cheers,
Yes, the reason is because I project all my films. I'll certainly give your suggestion some thought - might be a more expensive route, though.
Cheers,
Dave.
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Hi
If you're in the UK you should definitely check out Gauge Film on ebay. He sells both Kodak reversal stocks and processes them too with a super fast turn around time.
I've used his services several times with superb results.
Blue Cine Tech are good too but their service takes longer as i think they send films to ANDEC in Germany for processing.
Whichever one you use (and there are others too) you'll find that we're quite well catered for in the UK.
If you're in the UK you should definitely check out Gauge Film on ebay. He sells both Kodak reversal stocks and processes them too with a super fast turn around time.
I've used his services several times with superb results.
Blue Cine Tech are good too but their service takes longer as i think they send films to ANDEC in Germany for processing.
Whichever one you use (and there are others too) you'll find that we're quite well catered for in the UK.
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Many thanks Simon.
Much appreciated.
Best,
Much appreciated.
Best,
Dave.
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Simon,
Just to say that I have checked out Gauge Film, and they certainly seem to be the 'bees knees' for Super 8.
Thanks again.
Just to say that I have checked out Gauge Film, and they certainly seem to be the 'bees knees' for Super 8.
Thanks again.
Dave.
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Dave,
Remember that you can use 100D in both your Bauer s409xl & s609xl cameras ( as discussed before ).
Tri-X will also work fine.
I second that about Gaugefilm - excellent serivce.
I wouldn't like to put you off using The Widescreen Centre - but they are overpriced and last time I used them, they sent the films out to Andec in Berlin.
Remember you have also the very excellent Super 8 Reversal Lab in Holland offereing a wide selection of super 8 reversal films for projection including Orwo and Fomapan Black & white stocks.
Remember that you can use 100D in both your Bauer s409xl & s609xl cameras ( as discussed before ).
Tri-X will also work fine.
I second that about Gaugefilm - excellent serivce.
I wouldn't like to put you off using The Widescreen Centre - but they are overpriced and last time I used them, they sent the films out to Andec in Berlin.
Remember you have also the very excellent Super 8 Reversal Lab in Holland offereing a wide selection of super 8 reversal films for projection including Orwo and Fomapan Black & white stocks.
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Hi,
Fancy your remembering those previous posts, - yes, I still have those cameras, as well as the Sankyo Auto 5X for standard 8, and the Krasnogorsk 3 for 16mm. I can't wait to start shooting again!
I still have some Fomapan std.8 in my film freezer, and am looking forward to using those up as well.
The services in Holland are very useful too, as you say, and indeed, I have visited Parallaxe and met with Johan Kalee previously.
It's all coming back to me now, as I write this - jogging the old 'grey cells'!
A real thank-you to all who have contributed to this thread, it has been most encouraging, and I can see a bright colourful (and monochrome) way forward.
Though my interest had never dwindled, it certainly feels as though it has now been re-kindled through this Forum!
Best to all.
Fancy your remembering those previous posts, - yes, I still have those cameras, as well as the Sankyo Auto 5X for standard 8, and the Krasnogorsk 3 for 16mm. I can't wait to start shooting again!
I still have some Fomapan std.8 in my film freezer, and am looking forward to using those up as well.
The services in Holland are very useful too, as you say, and indeed, I have visited Parallaxe and met with Johan Kalee previously.
It's all coming back to me now, as I write this - jogging the old 'grey cells'!
A real thank-you to all who have contributed to this thread, it has been most encouraging, and I can see a bright colourful (and monochrome) way forward.
Though my interest had never dwindled, it certainly feels as though it has now been re-kindled through this Forum!
Best to all.
Dave.
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I love 16mm reversal. Projected it looks amazing. Expensive, but amazing. It has the contrast of Super 8 reversal but less grain and more vibrant color due to the larger size.
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I'm also thinking of shooting some 16mm 100D with my recently acquired Krasnogorsk.
Is there processing in the UK?
Can't seem to find this "Gauge Film' on ebay. Can someone kindly provide a link? Thanks
Is there processing in the UK?
Can't seem to find this "Gauge Film' on ebay. Can someone kindly provide a link? Thanks
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Hi cinecymru - - - and others,
I contacted Gauge Film about this very subject, as they only do Super 8 at the moment. However, Kevin Timmins of Gauge Film is starting 16mm film sales and processing as of this July in both B & W and colour!
He's also looking into providing the same service for standard 8.
I'm really looking forward to this service, as I've read very good reports. - Looks like all my dreams are coming true!
Way-to-go!!!
I contacted Gauge Film about this very subject, as they only do Super 8 at the moment. However, Kevin Timmins of Gauge Film is starting 16mm film sales and processing as of this July in both B & W and colour!
He's also looking into providing the same service for standard 8.
I'm really looking forward to this service, as I've read very good reports. - Looks like all my dreams are coming true!

Way-to-go!!!
Dave.
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Hi all, nice to read some of the above comments,
Indeed this month I'm running extensive tests on 16mm film (Tri-X and 100D) and all being well I'll be selling and processing 16mm film at Gauge Film in July. I'm not sure on prices yet but I intend to make the service as cheap as possible for you guys/girls to keep to my mission statement. No doubt it'll help bring 16mm prices down across the board as well which is what I hope to achieve.
I'm looking into Standard 8 this July. At the moment I process with E-6 and D-19 and due to a lack of time I will probably stick with these two processes for the rest of 2012 before expanding to other processes and other film stocks in 2013. My knowledge on Standard 8 equipment is rather limited and to do some test runs in July I'll need a good little Standard 8 camera and some film stock that is compatible with D-19 and/or E-6. Any recommendations on a good reliable little camera? Also any recommendations on where I can get film stock from/ with the possibility of being able to buy it in bulk monthly to stock it in my eBay shop so as I can start offering a Standard 8 process paid service? It would be wonderful to be able to offer a colour & B&W service for Standard 8, Super 8 and 16mm.
As usual, all and any help is greatly appreciated.
Kevin
Indeed this month I'm running extensive tests on 16mm film (Tri-X and 100D) and all being well I'll be selling and processing 16mm film at Gauge Film in July. I'm not sure on prices yet but I intend to make the service as cheap as possible for you guys/girls to keep to my mission statement. No doubt it'll help bring 16mm prices down across the board as well which is what I hope to achieve.
I'm looking into Standard 8 this July. At the moment I process with E-6 and D-19 and due to a lack of time I will probably stick with these two processes for the rest of 2012 before expanding to other processes and other film stocks in 2013. My knowledge on Standard 8 equipment is rather limited and to do some test runs in July I'll need a good little Standard 8 camera and some film stock that is compatible with D-19 and/or E-6. Any recommendations on a good reliable little camera? Also any recommendations on where I can get film stock from/ with the possibility of being able to buy it in bulk monthly to stock it in my eBay shop so as I can start offering a Standard 8 process paid service? It would be wonderful to be able to offer a colour & B&W service for Standard 8, Super 8 and 16mm.
As usual, all and any help is greatly appreciated.
Kevin
www.gaugefilm.co.uk