Thomas: http://www.garage5.ch has send me a testreel to compare our transfer systems..
With his permission,
here are some K40 frames, shot with his 1014XLS, transfered by me:
No additional sharpening.. just a little color/brightness tweaking.
To be honest, I have never seen this quality before...
This 1014XLS is a top camera!
well, in my view it is the first time it is possible to "sense" the astonishing "feeling" you get when you project K40 films shot with that camera - judging from transferred images.
suitable projector required too to recap of course.
Up until about 3 days ago I had been trying to buy from some guy a 1014 XLS. He was selling it for a really good price, but then he wanted to bundle it with a bunch of useless stuff I didn't need which jacked up the price to USD$460. The deal fell through, but now with these frames I wonder if I should have gone for it nevertheless. :roll:
"Here we all are, all our nationalities chatting and joking on a forum- two or three generations ago we were blowing each other up! "
Arislan wrote:which jacked up the price to USD$460. The deal fell through, but now with these frames I wonder if I should have gone for it nevertheless. :roll:
Be patient...
I have a 814.. mint condition... payed 25 Euro's for it (flea market)
Together with a brandnew Noris electronic soundprojector..
50 Euro's for both together.
Also have a 514 Auto Zoom...mint condition too, same price (25E).
Fred.
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my website:
http://www.super-8.be
about film transfering:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_k0IKckACujwT_fZHN6jlg
the footage looks good, but ttransfer is ok at best. your system still has a severe contrast problem, worse than what i've seen with consumer dv cameras. without shadow and highlight detail the image "dies" completely. sorry, but it's my honest opinion.
mattias wrote: your system still has a severe contrast problem,
/matt
Might be.. But I try to avoid blown out whites I see so often on other transfers. I can get much better detail in the mid parts, by lowering shutter speed , but then I get blown out whites. This kind of camera has very low dynamic range. It's very sensitive for blown out whites.
Fred.
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my website:
http://www.super-8.be
about film transfering:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_k0IKckACujwT_fZHN6jlg
Holy hell they're nice images - some of the nicest looking k40 I've ever seen - makes you wonder why people would waste their time with video :roll: I wouldn't worry about the lack of shadow detail - Ii'd put that down to the stock itself - it's a very contrasty stock
Scot
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Scotness wrote:I wouldn't worry about the lack of shadow detail - Ii'd put that down to the stock itself - it's a very contrasty stock
i don't mean scene detail but detail in the stock. let's call it loss of image structure perhaps. overly crushed blacks look like shit on the big screen, and ok at best on tv.
SOT The images speak to why I sometimes think of selling off all my cartridge loading S-8mm cameras and stick with roll loading cameras
such as R-8mm, DS-8mm and 16mm. Kodachrome is improved by
flashing, which is almost impossible with a cartridge, but very easy with
a roll of film... that and the image stability issues (jitter)...
S8 Booster wrote:these images are from a kodapak cartridge load s8 camera...
yes.
am i missing something here?....
he's commenting on the fact that there's so much contrast. something he likes to get around by flashing. while i tend to agree you still have a problem if your telecine can't see all the dynamic range of the film. a moderate flashing will change the gamma and bring out shadow detail but the black level remains pretty much the same.
anyway hmm.. you wrote a plug to ease off that problem didnt you?
also you indicated an second option to make 2 "scans" - one to take care of the highligts an 1 to take care of the lo lights and merge the 2? no one semed to take a bite on it though.
anywayhow since k40 is gone i see no relevance to reel cams whatsoever so what is the point?
s8hôôt
btw:
another option could of course have been to reload the k40 into kaccemas to fog em but k40 is gone.. gone..... gone........
S8 Booster wrote:
also you indicated an second option to make 2 "scans" - one to take care of the highligts an 1 to take care of the lo lights and merge the 2? no one semed to take a bite on it though......
Then you missed my posts about this subject.
I'm still working on it..
Now, about this high contrast: to make the best possible transfers I need a life histogram. The capture program from the machine cam does this, but it can only capture image sequences or AVI files.
While Cinecap can do stop motion capturing, it can not show a life histogram. So I must switch between these two programs for every new scene... This takes to much time.
Dilemma! :twisted: (but working on it)
Fred.
my website:
http://www.super-8.be
about film transfering:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_k0IKckACujwT_fZHN6jlg
