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Postby Rick Palidwor » Mon Mar 28, 2005 2:24 am

Finally figured out how to upload video clips, I hope. Here is my first effort:

ftp://ftp.filmshooting.com/upload/video ... teclip.mov

This is an excerpt from a music video I made for Gesundheit, shot with a shutterless Nikon 8X Super Zoom at 18fps.

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Postby steve hyde » Mon Mar 28, 2005 2:49 am

Rick,

The look is perfect for the band!!! It was like a 20 second trip to hell :lol:

Very cool.

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Postby Rick Palidwor » Mon Mar 28, 2005 3:05 am

Here's another clip from the same band - same camera, but Mitch shot these bits.

ftp://ftp.filmshooting.com/upload/video ... gsclip.mov

If the band interests you, here is there site: http://www.gesundheit.ca

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Postby downix » Mon Mar 28, 2005 3:22 am

Good work. Ektachrome I take it?
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Postby Rick Palidwor » Mon Mar 28, 2005 3:25 am

downix wrote:Good work. Ektachrome I take it?


1st clip, "chuteclip" is Ektahrome. 2nd "offerngsclip" is tri-x

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Postby Rick Palidwor » Mon Mar 28, 2005 3:37 am

Another clip of cars and street lights at night, and a red traffic light.

ftp://ftp.filmshooting.com/upload/video ... htclip.mov

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Postby Rick Palidwor » Mon Mar 28, 2005 4:26 am

These are some candles. I love the quality of the light. Pause the clip here and there to get a close look.

ftp://ftp.filmshooting.com/upload/video ... esclip.mov

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Postby Rick Palidwor » Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:52 am

I forgot to add that the candles and cars were shot a t 12 fps
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Postby lunni » Mon Mar 28, 2005 9:20 am

Wow, awesome clips! Gotta rip of the shutter from one of my cameras too..

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Postby sunrise » Mon Mar 28, 2005 11:53 am

I like it very much.

Do you have any pics of the camera and the process of removing the shutter?

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Postby Mitch Perkins » Mon Mar 28, 2005 4:49 pm

sunrise wrote:I like it very much.

Do you have any pics of the camera and the process of removing the shutter?

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No pics, maybe we'll try to post some.

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Postby audadvnc » Mon Mar 28, 2005 5:50 pm

Good examples of non-naturalistic S8 shooting. How did Mitch get color tints to the Tri-X? In-camera during transfer to video or on the computer?
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Postby Mitch Perkins » Mon Mar 28, 2005 7:19 pm

audadvnc wrote:Good examples of non-naturalistic S8 shooting. How did Mitch get color tints to the Tri-X? In-camera during transfer to video or on the computer?


Thanks for the kind words.

I haven't the patience to wait for the clip to upload, but if there
is colour in B+W footage, it is the result of the colour temp. of the projector bulb during transfer.
Under-exposed film requires a hotter bulb, which looks blue. Over-exposure requires dimming of the bulb, and results in a more sepia look.
These issues can be eliminated *within reasonable parameters* simply by hitting the white balance on the DV cam for individual film clips. The DV cam I'm currently using has a B+W option which desaturates the film real-time during capture. Nice!
If the clip in question is sepia, it's because the white balance of the DV cam could not take any more "orangeness" out of an image that required a 100% dimmed down bulb.

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Postby sonickel » Mon Mar 28, 2005 7:50 pm

Lovely. Thanks for posting these. 8)

I particularly liked the ones where the light wasn't so harsh (ie on the hardcore metal singer), where you could make out the human form, and the streaking was more subtle in quality.

What sort of light would lead to subtle streaking effects? (ie what difference in fstop between darkness and filmed people/objects?

Also a step by step guide to making one's camera shutterless would be really cool. :P
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Postby audadvnc » Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:16 pm

Still on color tints - I'm suddenly intrigued by the possibilities of adding color to b&w shots during the transfer step, as apparently happened by accident in the "offerngsclip" video. On my computer the image has magenta and bluish areas that seem to vary in size and intensity during the program.

Rather than desaturating, we can add color to sections by varying video white balance, color temperature, projector lamp voltage, lens filtering, screen color, etc. Or videotape the S8 film projected on the bare chest of the singer. Even break out the Sharpies and tint the film itself - just like "Birth of a Nation". I wonder if felt pen ink, thinned oil paints or watercolors would gum up the mechanism? What did the oldtimers use to tint their films?
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