SHUTTERLESS!

[Guest]

Get your hands on an old Nikon Super Zoom 8, or 8x Super Zoom.
Remove the four black "handle" screws visible on the bottom.
Remove the three "left side panel" screws visible in the cart. chamber.

Only four screws to go!

Two at the front of the cart. chamber, two in the same place on the other side of the camera.
Believe it or not George isn't at ho...I mean you are now ready to pull this puppy right in two!

Here's what'll get in your way:

1. Wires for power zoom and auto exposure. Who needs 'em? I don't, but you may want to de-solder as opposed to snip.
2. Trigger mechanism. Depress trigger & put on "runlock".
3. Exp. meter cart. "reader". Do a little wiggle.

It'll feel like you're doing something bad, and the rubber collar around the 85 filter key slot will tug, but just keep working it slowly apart.

Now! The camera's in two pieces in front of you. Simply walk away; you have wrecked your camera, OR>>>

Look at the front of the cart. chamber half.
See the shutter cover? Take it off, (4 sm. screws).
See the shutter? Take it off, too, (1 tiny set screw, loosen, do not remove). Now put the camera back together.

The shutterless motion picture image is great for low-low-low light situations where there are no hotspots; the film is in effect flashed, giving low contrast images.
Plus the little Nikon has 12fps!
Cut away an area of the left side panel to access the main drive gear, and "brake" it with your finger as you shoot>>8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1,0fps!
The shutterless motion picture image is neat where there are hotspots, too; they streak down the entire frame etc. etc.

You get the picture.
Why Nikon Super Zoom 8 or 8x Super Zoom? Because the shutter, unlike in most S8 cams, is not integral to pull-down claw movement.

'Bye
Mitch

[audadvnc]

Simply walk away; you have wrecked your camera...

Mitch

This sounds like the worst idea I have ever heard.

Why don't you just take the lens off and take a wire brush to it to get that "soft focus" look? Or throw the camera, loaded with film cartridge, into the oven at 425 degrees for an hour, for that "reticulated" look? Because each of these great ideas wrecks a perfectly good camera.

And for what? A one-trick-pony effect. It's not worth it.

I've got a Filmo 16mm camera that had shutter problems. The image looked terrible. One continuous vertical streak.

Then I fixed it, and it looks fine now.

[Mitch Perkins]

Simply walk away; you have wrecked your camera...

Mitch

This sounds like the worst idea I have ever heard.

[mitch]
>>You have led a sheltered life.

Why don't you just take the lens off and take a wire brush to it to get that "soft focus" look? Or throw the camera, loaded with film cartridge, into the oven at 425 degrees for an hour, for that "reticulated" look? Because each of these great ideas wrecks a perfectly good camera.

And for what? A one-trick-pony effect. It's not worth it.

I've got a Filmo 16mm camera that had shutter problems. The image looked terrible. One continuous vertical streak.

Then I fixed it, and it looks fine now.

Heehee, I seem to have left out the most important part - you can put the shutter back in, the camera is not damaged at all! These cameras are cheap! I have one with and one without shutter, but you could easily have a "swing" hitter.
The line you quoted was a joke, something I would never have believed it possible to mistake. You have *blown my mind*. I am thinking of not posting here anymore.
Hope that helps!

Mitch

[audadvnc]

You have *blown my mind*. I am thinking of not posting here anymore.
Hope that helps!

Mitch

Love this quote function

[jusetan]

hahah..

cool thoughts mitch... you always seem to be coming up with something new and interesting to try out.

seems like a workaround for using a nikon the same way you can use a nizo (with the B setting)...

pip pip cheerio

jusetan

[Rick Palidwor]

I have one of these shutterless cameras and it is currently my favourite camera. I go out every night and shoot lights. (My avatar is a still from one of these nights).

I also have one with the shutter, in case I am not looking for the streaking effect.

Both have a hole cut into the back so I can get at the gear and "brake it" or run it with my finger. Good for music video shoots and other experimental shots.

Rick

[Rick Palidwor]

This sounds like the worst idea I have ever heard.

Why don't you just take the lens off and take a wire brush to it to get that "soft focus" look? Or throw the camera, loaded with film cartridge, into the oven at 425 degrees for an hour, for that "reticulated" look? Because each of these great ideas wrecks a perfectly good camera.

Just for the record, Mitch starting doing this to otherwise broken cameras, so there was nothing to lose. The cool thing about these Nikon models is that you can make the mod without destroying the regular functions of the camera.

And for what? A one-trick-pony effect. It's not worth it.

I would call it a several-trick pony and it's another tool in my kit.

I've got a Filmo 16mm camera that had shutter problems. The image looked terrible. One continuous vertical streak.

Then I fixed it, and it looks fine now.

When I want to shoot with a "regular" camera, I do. I have lots of those too.

Rick

[reflex]

But... this is something that you could never do with a camcorder. Variable frame rate, blurry oddness, and general cool.

There are plently of damaged cams out there that are just screaming to be modded... The postal service crushed a camera of mine a few months ago - it's the most deranged piece of equipment I've ever owned. Randomness rules.

[steve hyde]

Cool idea Mitch. Thanks for sharing it here.

Steve

[reedsturtevant]

Neat mod, Mitch!

I added your tip to the Super 8 wiki, http://super8wiki.com, hope you don't mind.

[Mitch Perkins]

hahah..

cool thoughts mitch... you always seem to be coming up with something new and interesting to try out.

seems like a workaround for using a nikon the same way you can use a nizo (with the B setting)...

pip pip cheerio

jusetan

Greetings.

With respect, and for clarity:

Running the Nizo *continuously* (that is, 18, 24, 54 fps) with shutter locked open, unless at 6fps, will result in an image *darker* by half again. Approximately.
The Nikon single frame trigger is a two-step doohicky that, with shutter removed, will produce an image with a frame line through the horizontal center. If you have an opportunity to test it, you'll see what I mean; hard to explain. For time-exposures with the Nikon, SF trigger must be clicked thru both steps very quickly to avoid this extra frame line, unless you want it there; it does look cool!
Best way for Nikon time-exp.'s - with shutter in, dummy remote jack in place, trigger on runlok, and a section of left-side panel removed, mark "open" and "closed" [shutter] on the main drive gear, and turn by hand.
Very tired now...good night.

Mitch

[mattias]

And for what? A one-trick-pony effect. It's not worth it.

worth what? the $10 for the camera or an hour of work? most likely both less money and less time than trying to achieve this "one trick" some other way.

/matt

[Carlos 8mm]

You can get similar results without undesiderable effects "flashing" the film before or after shooting.

Carlos

[mattias]

undesiderable effects

but they're not undesireable, and even if they were how do you pre or post flash super 8 film? it's in a cartridge?

/matt

[Mitch Perkins]

Neat mod, Mitch!

I added your tip to the Super 8 wiki, http://super8wiki.com, hope you don't mind.

I love Wikipedia! Not only do I not mind, I am honoured. Thanks for the paraphrasing - you may have saved my *life*.

Mitch