My Regular 8mm music video is up on youtube

[BigBeaner]

Hey all, my music video shot on a bit of a mix of 8mm and dv is up on youtube now, we're going back at it and hopefully will have a dvd of the band up soon with the super 8 and 16mm music videos we're going to be shooting soon, sorta sad that this is over a year old and finally getting out there... By the way, the transfer was done by our own JohnnHud, thanks again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWZYZFlgaM0

[BK]

Excellent work, nice song, loved it!

What camera you used and how did you sync it up to the singing bits??? Guessing the shots were DV.

Bill

[marc]

Is the Regular 8 footage 100D? What camera did you use?

[BigBeaner]

Thank you so much for enjoying it! A lot of hard work and a lot of people contributed to it so I think it's for them too. Onto the questions:

Film stock is cinechrome 40 from John Schwind (mind you this was shot nov. 2005) I just had 6 rolls. I think it was too slow of a stock to learn on...

Cameras used: Canon Reflex Zoom 8-3. I loved this camera it was used for the shots in the bricks with the full band, the park scenes with the girl and her friends, and for the few shots that you can tell are 8mm in the airport. Winds were strong and blew the camera off the tripod - I know I could've done a million things to try to prevent this but no this just went off. I actually have the last shot the camera was used before it fell and broke off the front lens, it's the shot of the actress sitting on the bench and you see the slate then orange fogging.

DV is just my trv-38 (I think) sony 1 chip that I After Effects the hell out of. It was used to record sound and as a visual to record slate, but also as a back up so I had "dailies" that I could have an idea what was filmed. Itcame in handy because I had 2 decisions when the camera fell, I could've left and come back or shoot the scenes with the dv and mix it with the 8mm. It's not so bad because it's a music video and think it looks good for 1 chip. Some shots are in there that are DV backed up of 8mm.

Took like a month for production to get back after the 8mm camera broke, the A camera replaced with a Sankyo 8-z (I believe from someones suggestion from this forum). I like it, I wanna use it some more and will just 16mm looks better and easier and super 8 is even easier and less film lost. This camera has rewind functions, nice manual/auto, and different speeds including one labeled as "TV" which I haven't used. Most of the parts that sync are to this.

Sync was established by trying to match the 8mm slate to the visual of the dv slate and to the sound and also meant having to make the clips longer or shorter so they sync, or soon as it fell out of sync, I just cut to something else. It was just some work but now i've done more complex shorts 4 of them I just redubbed and sync to later. You can say most film or a lot of things in life is trial and error. I did another music video, all DV, it was good but didn't look half as good as this. I would like to shoot some more experimental ones too along with my 16mm sound sync short.

[marc]

Sankyo 8-z (I believe from someones suggestion from this forum). I like it, I wanna use it some more and will just 16mm looks better and easier and super 8 is even easier and less film lost.

How did you loose more film using the R8? Some people claim that it has not been a problem for them as of late, but the fear of the jittery carts makes some hesitant to use the S8 anymore. The regular 8 100d is available now and since most people have a lot of confidence in R8 stability, these seem to be good reasons to stick with the R8. And as far as 16mm is concerned, at least in terms of processing charges, I would guess that R8 is cheaper.

[BigBeaner]

Jittery carts, I don't know, I've shot more regular 8 but mostly 16mm than super 8 so I'm really not an expert with super 8. The problem with regular 8 is you expose 25ft and then during the shoot you have to basically break for a bit, flip and reload to expose the other 25. Sometimes if you don't do it right it gets fogged on those ends vs. 16mm in which I get the same run time but I don't have to flip it over, I just load it and run it till 100 runs out and saves a lot of time and few bits of film. It is more money but I don't mind it the image is nicer just you don't have that 8mm feel. Mind you, I've been using negative stocks lately.

[hellesdonfilms]

Fantastic video. Do you mind if i put a link to it from my Standard/Regular 8 website?

By the way a Bolex H8 takes 100ft reels giving 200ft of finished film (16 mins) so you can afford to waste a bit

[BigBeaner]

Ya sure a link would be fine so long as you put small blurb of credit that you can copy off the youtube site and a link to that or something.

[Bolex Collector]

Very cool BigBeaner. Viva regular 8mm.

[adamkat22]

great video. thanks for sharing.
with shots of the full band do you just have them mime to a recording of the song to make sure it all syncs up?
do you know how much it cost to complete the project?

[BigBeaner]

Yes they are just miming to the song. We forgot a cd player, we had to use someones car stereo blarring with an ipod hooked up to it and the band just mimed it but it's hard to hear over the drums for the outside mill parts. Even in other settings and some others that I have shot (on video since it was a video class - didn't look or come out as good) we still had this problem and million others but thats what makes it fun.

More on sync, I did heads AND tails slates which was fun timing when the wind would run out but helped in synching it to what was shot on the video camera then use that sound to sync to the song. Next time though I'm going to play the song on adobe audition as a time code reference point/digital slating but this is - but for the time being I've thought up a few collage music videos and few other sync heavies (think Gondry), I just need bands...

I don't know exactly but I do know it cost under $200, $100 just on 6 rolls of k-40 and processing. Nice, now I wanna use more expensive equipment.