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Postby mathis » Mon May 15, 2006 2:59 pm

Thank you for the information!
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Postby avr » Mon May 15, 2006 5:30 pm

ludwig Draser wrote:Hello.
Iam writing in Name of Mr. Klose from GK Film. After the introducion of the material he has so many orders, that he has same delays in answering all the mails and orders, specially he dont speak english very well. But some other part of his problems are, that a great part of his first batch of cartridges are destroyed during transportation. So he has some problems to get a replacemt batch in time. Iam sure , that you will understand his situation.
Be sure, that everything will goes well in 2-3 weeks.
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OK I think that all of us undrestand the problem.
One question for you, Is true that GK Film will make Double Super 8 Velvia 50D stock? I think that there are many people interested in this.
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Postby charles8 » Mon May 15, 2006 5:47 pm

Mr Klose has now got film for sale, and you can use paypal hope this helps, he e-mailed me today..
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Postby cubdukat » Mon May 15, 2006 10:03 pm

Shion wrote:
Joe Gioielli wrote:Well, I can't feel all that happy about it. It is my understanding that Fuji has dumped the 50 asa stock so once this stock is gone it's gone for good.

Isn't there still a 100asa version? Couldn't GK/Spectra/etc. switch to that once the 50asa stuff runs out?

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That's exactly what Spectra plans on doing. They say they have at least a year or two of Velvia 50D, then they'll switch over.

I'm not sure what the others plan on doing, but I suspect they'll do the same, given the demand there seems to be for V50.

Honestly, I think Kodak should be paying attention to this. Obviously E64T's not gettin'-r-done for people, so maybe they should look harder at E100D, or maybe--dare we hope--work on a newer, more environmentally-friendly incarnation of Kodachrome. I find it hard to believe that in 50-plus years(?) of Kodachrome being made, they haven't been able to do that.
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Postby super8france » Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:13 am

Hi

I ordered on July 4, I did not receive anything. One does not answer my e-mail. I cannot obtain any refund by Paypal (it's too late).

How make?
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Postby aj » Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:47 am

Just send an email in english and ask your money back through a paypal refund this is free of cost to both parties.
Supposedly now an english speaker (ahum) will read and answer your mail.

Otherwise file a complaint/claim with Paypal and abort the friendly mode.

GK is a one man company with 'high' demand trouble and only parttime production capacity.
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Postby Patrick » Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:00 pm

Initially, I was very keen to try out Fuji Velvia 50 in super 8. Incidentally, I shoot a lot of Velvia in my still photography, particularly in medium format. However, after hearing about the film transportation issues with the super 8 version in some peoples' cameras, I am now reluctant.
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Postby super8france » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:00 pm

Sorry but it's too late with Paypal. It can't refunded
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Postby super8france » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:01 pm

45 days it's too late for Paypal.
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Postby Will2 » Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:50 pm

Joe Gioielli wrote:Well, I can't feel all that happy about it. It is my understanding that Fuji has dumped the 50 asa stock so once this stock is gone it's gone for good.

Joe


The still photographers I know say that the 50 asa is much better than the 100 asa in terms of color rendition. I might have misunderstood, but I think there are 2 versions of the 100 asa and the newer one should be better.
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Postby aj » Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:54 pm

super8france wrote:45 days it's too late for Paypal.


Summon GK film to refund your money. Don''t be polite.
And it is just a mouce-click in Paypal

Otherwise contact local police of GK and file a complaint. German police takes these things serious. I know from experience when I had difficulties with a eBay seller who thought he could set his own business rules. Remarkable, in my personal experience while buying from all over the world, is that all wrongdoing eBay sellers have been from Germany.

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Well to mention the two finest, stay away from stef68 who tried to pitch his copied manuals here. He knowingly sells broken cameras without mentioning the damages or problems. Then there is this redlight fraud from saarlouis who changes his ebayname so often I lost track.

Other german sellers are master in not mentioning lost or missing parts. Apparently it is seller rule to not describe things you are not selling. Which may seem logical but what these guys extend to battery holders, grips, doors, etcetc. Which do not happen to show on the photo either of course.
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Postby Angus » Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:58 pm

Just to defende German eBay sellers, I've had several dealings with people from Germany and all have been among the very best experiences I've had on eBay.

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Postby Elmogs » Tue Sep 12, 2006 4:35 am

I have bought many things from Ebay Germany and have had 100% success with all of them. :)
The only problem I have ever had was from an Ebay seller in Ohio and a scam artist in Connecticut via Yahoo classifieds.
When I went to Spectra film in North Hollywood California to buy some Velvia 50 I told the man I wanted 2 cartridges. He turned around and looked at the 10-20 cartridges behind him and said, "umm.. I can only sell you one." I asked why and was told, "These are sort of on hold for people." That wasn't too cool but hey I got one and I'll shoot it soon. Also I tried the Kodak 64t. 2x cartridges and I really dont like that stock at all. The footage looks very dull compared to Kodachrome or Fuji R25.
I am pretty sure the Velvia will be nice.
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Postby Rob » Tue Sep 12, 2006 10:07 am

I have always had prompt, efficient and courteous service from German sellers and I'm constantly impressed by the quality of their English. My only gripe is that they dont accept PayPal, but thats my problem not theirs.

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Postby awand » Tue Sep 12, 2006 1:40 pm

Statement by GK-Film GmbH


Dear forum members,


The present:

Since there are a lot of rumours on this internet forum we feel that we have to react 1 time via Andreas W Andersen. First we want to mention that we will handle all individual orders, questions and problems via personal e-mail contact. We can't discuss every single issue here, that's not the way it works. Everybody [non-German speakers/writers] that has a problem with his order can contact GK-Film via Frank Bruinsma/Super8 Reversal Lab. There is no point in sending English e-mails to Gottfried, please stop doing this. Frank is the person that handles all foreign e-mails and orders on behalf of GK-Film. There is a close partnership between the two companies.

Our situation:

GK-Film can't produce the amount of Cinevia films that are requested. This has several reasons:

* Making a super8 film from raw 35mm film is truly a lot of labour. The
loading of the cartridges is mainly causing the delays, this is difficult
and has to be done precise.

* Do not forget that GK-Film is working on this project for 2 years now. We expected that Kodak would sell Kodachrome K40 for another year, but they stopped now. Therefore we are in fact 1 year behind schedule. We thought that we could introduce our new super8 film somewhere end 2007 on the moment that we thought K40 would be taken of the market. To bad for GK-Film that we were wrong. The results of this fact is that we are not fully capable of producing s8 although the demand is very high. We can't just start a larger business at this moment because we have to be sure that we don't make mistakes. Long time quality is the main goal, not sales. Therefore the production still takes a lot of time. And we also have to face some difficulties with cartridges that don't run 100%. That's all part of starting a new product. We believe that we will be having no more production and sales problems by the middle or end of 2007.

* New films like 64T/100T on super8, DS8 or 16mm will not be introduced very soon unless we are sure they give good images, so understand that it has definitely our attention. We see the benefits from these emulsions just like you.

* Gottfried Klose is a man that is not used to work with computers. Therefore all the e-mail communication did not work very well with mostly foreign [English speaking] costumers. We hope to have solved this issue via Frank.

* Gottfried is a man that has a chronic disease that forces him to stay in
the hospital very often.

* GK-Film and the Super8 Reversal Lab are small companies. We don't want to become big.

* Besides our Cinevia product we also have to produce the Pressure Plate and handle all the repairs of equipment.

The future:

We understand if members are not very happy with us. We truly feel sorry because we [Gottfried and Frank] are both very dedicated to the super8 film format. You should consider us as idealists and not as business people. We understand that it is better for Cinevia costumers if we would be better business people, but we feel that we have to do it our own way. It bothers us that some of you are not happy. We try to solve all problems and issues in the future the best way we can. And that's all we can do, believe me. We are not Kodak or Fuji.

Be constructive:

We can not participate actively in this forum. We feel that is has no use spending endless time explaining what we are doing and why. We prefer to work in our workshop and lab instead. We both have a website were we announce films, news and products so please read it once in a while. We would appreciate it if you would support Cinevia instead of breaking us down. It is very easy to break us down and go the police, but we would make Cinevia anyway to use it ourselves. We give this statement just 1 time and we hope that it helps you in judging your opponent who is in fact your friend and your colleague.


Think positive! Act positive.


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Gottfried Klose / Technical President
Frank Bruinsma / Sales President + PR

(Posted by Andreas Widerøe Andersen on behalf of Gottfried Klose and Frank Bruinsma)
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