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Interested in a new RetroScan Universal?

Post by Konton » Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:15 pm

Hey all,

Monday my RetroScan Universal should be completed and ready for shipping. I ordered this from Roger at moviestuff.tv about two months ago. I've used his first Workprinters back in 2002 and have always appreciated the quality he provided. I order the RetroScan Universal with both a Dual 8 and 16mm gate as well as a breakout box so I not only could record 8mm, Super 8 and 16mm film, but had the option to use a different camera system for higher resolution capture.

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Sadly my financial situation has shifted and next Friday I'll be out of a job. But hey, my loss might be someone else's gain. The RetroScan has yet to be shipped, and if anyone is interested in a deal, I can have this shipped directly to you with the 90 day warranty and everything included. Please contact me at justin@konton.com if you're interested. No need to wait 2 months for it to be built. Instant gratification!

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Re: Interested in a new RetroScan Universal?

Post by MovieStuff » Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:25 pm

The Universals have a 1 year warranty, not 90 day.

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Re: Interested in a new RetroScan Universal?

Post by studiocarter2 » Sat Apr 08, 2017 12:41 am

If you have that machine you have a job.

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Re: Interested in a new RetroScan Universal?

Post by Konton » Sat Apr 08, 2017 6:45 am

Sorry. Was reading the wrong page of your website. Yep 1 year warranty:
http://www.moviestuff.tv/read_universal.html
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The Universals have a 1 year warranty, not 90 day.
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Re: Interested in a new RetroScan Universal?

Post by Konton » Sun Apr 09, 2017 5:04 pm

I hope this is your way of saying you'll be my number one supporter and send all your footage over to me for processing. If I can't sell it, your patronage would help greatly!
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Re: Interested in a new RetroScan Universal?

Post by Konton » Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:11 am

For those that have been messaging me, here are the hard numbers:

$4500 flat via PayPal will get you the new RetroScan Universal. Free shipping included. This will come with not just one, but two gates. So you can convert 8mm, Super 8, and 16mm film. It also has a breakout box, so you can use different cameras if you're looking for 4K transfers.

The unit is ready to go. Feel free to send me a PM.
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Re: Interested in a new RetroScan Universal?

Post by Tscan » Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:10 am

What is the "break out box"? I don't see anything about it on the website.
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Re: Interested in a new RetroScan Universal?

Post by Konton » Wed Apr 12, 2017 2:20 pm

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Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:10 am
What is the "break out box"? I don't see anything about it on the website.
Roger could probably explain it better. But basically it's a way to access certain electrical wiring. So if you wanted to use a DSLR camera or even a Super 8 camera with the RetroScan Universal you could do so without having to take anything apart.
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Re: Interested in a new RetroScan Universal?

Post by MovieStuff » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:27 am

Konton wrote:
Wed Apr 12, 2017 2:20 pm
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Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:10 am
What is the "break out box"? I don't see anything about it on the website.
Roger could probably explain it better. But basically it's a way to access certain electrical wiring. So if you wanted to use a DSLR camera or even a Super 8 camera with the RetroScan Universal you could do so without having to take anything apart.
You can't use a DSLR on the Universal. You also can't use a Super 8 camera on the Universal. You can only use a triggerable machine vision camera with a global shutter. There are many out there that customers have retrofitted to the Universal but they each have their own unique trigger cable configuration. The breakout box is just a simple and non-invasive way to wire in your own (appropriate) camera without having to cut the trigger cable of the camera we provide. The breakout box is free for the asking but isn't on the website. It should be noted that, while changing the camera doesn't void the warranty as long as you don't damage the Universal, we don't assist with such installations. So a certain level of expertise in electronics, software and optics is required.

On a related topic, we hope to have a 2K upgrade kit available by the summer. It is a separate kit that the user installs easily without having to send the whole unit back and will work with the Universal software, which is currently undergoing a complete revision.

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Post by studiocarter2 » Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:39 am

Yea, 2 K

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Re: Interested in a new RetroScan Universal?

Post by studiocarter2 » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:24 pm

I tried a local transfer store, thinking it used the same machine, however they used the Wolverine and the results were horrible. And they have a storefront on Main Street!
Yea, I would patronize your service.
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Post by Will2 » Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:49 pm

We have a local shop here in Dallas that bought a RetroScan Universal and it really improved their quality...plus now they offer 16mm which they couldn't do before. And the shop owners are almost giddy over their new toy and the improvement it has made.

Most people that take in their old movies to be transferred don't know what to expect and crappy quality is often accepted just because they don't know what's possible. The owners of the shops know the difference and its up to them to be the arbiters of quality for the average customer.

So glad Roger is making an affordable, quality solution for these folks so more people will see the value of film.

The Wolverine machine sounds like a nice toy to get rough scans made so you can decide what to send out for a proper scan but no transfer house charging money should be using that thing.

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Re: Interested in a new RetroScan Universal?

Post by Will2 » Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:53 pm

MovieStuff wrote:
Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:27 am
On a related topic, we hope to have a 2K upgrade kit available by the summer. It is a separate kit that the user installs easily without having to send the whole unit back and will work with the Universal software, which is currently undergoing a complete revision.
Will that be a full 2k 2048x1440ish? or more widescreen? I really like having the full height so we can finish in HD and just crop top and bottom rather than having to scale it...

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Re: Interested in a new RetroScan Universal?

Post by MovieStuff » Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:14 pm

Will2 wrote:
Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:53 pm
MovieStuff wrote:
Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:27 am
On a related topic, we hope to have a 2K upgrade kit available by the summer. It is a separate kit that the user installs easily without having to send the whole unit back and will work with the Universal software, which is currently undergoing a complete revision.
Will that be a full 2k 2048x1440ish? or more widescreen? I really like having the full height so we can finish in HD and just crop top and bottom rather than having to scale it...
Here's the lowdown on the upcoming 2k kit:

Based on the excellent, low noise, great color of the new Sony IMX chip, which is a first generation CMOS chip with a global shutter, the full 2k resolution will be 2048 x 1536. The new software will allow you to scan compressed or uncompressed at 2048 x 1536, 1920 x 1080 or the original 1296 x 964.

The inclusion of scanning at 1296 x 964 may seem odd but the reasoning is logical when you consider that the majority of small mom and pop shops in our target market that we sell units to are still only outputting standard def DVDs. So 1296 x 964 is already higher resolution than most everyone is currently demanding. Remember, we don't capture to a compressed video file. The Universal captures each frame of film to a Photoshop quality digital still frame. So there's a bit more overhead per frame than capturing to a video file. Based on extensive tests, capturing with the Universal at 1920 x 1080 can put some laptop based systems at the very edge of acceptable performance due the prevalence of 5400 RPM drives. Also, the aspect ratio of the target material is essentially always 4:3, so forcing adopters of the 2k camera to capture at a minimum resolution of 1920 x 1080 does nothing to noticeably increase picture quality but does increase the amount of data per frame by by well over 50%, which is silly when 99% of the time, you're going to do a 4:3 center cut for SD or cover the left and right areas of the 1920 x 1080 HD frame with black pillar bars. So allowing capture at 1296 x 964 allows previous Universal users to make a lateral move to the superior picture of the new camera without having to make sudden upgrades to their computer hardware. They can test and see if their system can handle 1920 x 1080 at full 15fps. If so, then great. If not, they can capture at 1296 x 964 at 15fps but simply switch the Universal to 10fps to capture 1920 x 1080 for customers that require it.

Regarding 2k, Jeff has made some terrific improvements to the I/O of the software, which significantly improves performance. Because the 2k files are so large per frame, we are finding that, on some systems, you can actually capture uncompressed easier than compressed. This is because there is a "tipping point" where the amount of time it takes some systems to compress and write a frame to a single drive can exceed the time it takes to just write an uncompressed frame without the delay of compression time. This is actually huge because it means on most non-raid desk top systems, you can enjoy the space saving economy of capturing 1920 x 1080 compressed for the majority of customers but still be able to capture full, uncompressed 2k on the same drive for customers that demand it. This "tipping point" advantage also holds true on some laptops where the normal capture mode is 1296 x 964 but someone has a lot of footage they want captured at 1920 x 1080. In that instance, some laptops that might require 10fps for 1920 x 1080 compressed have no problem capturing uncompressed at 15fps. That said, what our testing has revealed is that the only way to be sure is by doing experiments. Each system limitation is different. What we will suggest for each customer that moves up to 2k is that they should consider installing a Raid-0 array for problem free performance in all modes. It's so easy to do now that you might as well, unless you plan to just continue operating at 1296 x 964 for capture.

In the future, it is unlikely we will ever offer anything beyond 2k. Never saying never but the reality for our current market is the target image being captured is almost always 4:3. If you capture your full 8mm or 16mm 4:3 frame at 2048 x 1536, the only way to preserve all the information in that frame and still output a 16:9 image at full vertical and horizontal resolution is to "float" the 2048 x 1536, 2k image in a 16:9 3k frame with black pillar bars on the sides. So the need to offer a 4K capture mode is really, really, really the exception to the rule in what is already a very narrow niche market. Also, once you start getting above 2k, the caliber of lenses required to sustain the line pairs for a true 4K image becomes prohibitively expensive. So, for a while, we will be sticking with 2k.

Anyway, we will make announcements as we get closer. Cameras based on the new Sony IMX chip are currently on long lead times with all manufacturers. Sony is way behind on fulfilling orders and can't keep up with the demand. We are working with FLIR (formally Point Grey) on expediting our access to their new cameras so we hope to have the 2k kit available by the beginning of summer.

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Re: Interested in a new RetroScan Universal?

Post by Tscan » Fri Apr 14, 2017 4:31 pm

Hopefully the latest software update wll run well with Windows 7 pro? The option to scan lower than 2K is a good idea for those who have older systems. I don't mind upgrading the camera, but don't want to build a new PC until the wheels come off my current machine. I built it in 2010 for capture and edit, still runs strong. But if I want to change or improve my PC setup in 2017, I'll have to build a new system.
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