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Post by Eric Milborn » Fri Sep 23, 2016 6:58 pm

example of grain and flat colors

watch 720p hd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgWLgok_tQc

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Post by Angus » Sat Sep 24, 2016 2:12 pm

Whereas I quite like that look...the colours seem realistic to me, not overblown like some modern filmstock seems to give.

Whatever Ferrania do, it won't please everyone.
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Post by Pj » Sat Sep 24, 2016 2:18 pm

The grain and colours look fine to me, I think the Agfa looks very good in 16mm, but not in Super 8 as the grain gets to much for it.

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Post by Tscan » Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:30 am

Eric Milborn wrote:example of grain and flat colors

watch 720p hd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgWLgok_tQc
Yes it looks great, but S16 on an A-minima with pro scan/colorist is the top denominator for this film. Agfa in S8 is still underwhelming in my book.
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Post by nikonr10 » Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:12 pm

Tscan wrote:
Eric Milborn wrote:example of grain and flat colors

watch 720p hd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgWLgok_tQc
Yes it looks great, but S16 on an A-minima with pro scan/colorist is the top denominator for this film. Agfa in S8 is still underwhelming in my book.
Such a nice Camera with now very limited film stock / to chose from ,
I think at one time so many of us once wished for this S16mm camera and the price ,
We could only dream of having yet using back in the good days of film and her stocks . :ymapplause:

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Post by filmferrania » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:02 am

BAC wrote:Please consider this my request for N8mm! If you made a batch I would stock up on it and I'm sure there are many other members of this forum that would do the same. My stock of Ektachrome 100D is dwindling and I'm starting to panic.

Do you have any arrangements with Wittner Cinetec to re-perforate 16mm into N8mm? I know they have a perforating machine and visited the factory in 2014 but there was no mention of N8mm film.

http://www.wittner-kinotechnik.de/info/ ... nglish.php
As Nicola indicated, we have the finishing machinery for all of those formats and many many more. We have the potential to create and finish just about any format of motion picture stock from 8mm to 70mm.

It really is just potential at this point, and will remain so for quite some time - and here's why: to install any particular finishing line carries a cost between 50K-100K. This covers moving it from storage to the LRF, then installing and testing everything to get it production-ready. In addition, we must balance our desire to make many formats against the realities of our production capacity. Until we are able to upgrade our capacity (years from now), all products will also carry an opportunity cost. This opportunity cost will, by necessity, drive our decision-making for some time.

That said, we have been thinking about ways to produce small batches without affecting our main production. We think we have some ideas that could work. But of course we won't know exactly what we can do about this small-batch production until our main production is running smoothly...

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Post by filmferrania » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:59 am

Angus wrote:Whatever Ferrania do, it won't please everyone.
Quite right. No company makes a product that pleases everyone. Such a product would be very boring, I think...

We will obviously make films with their own unique character. This character is a result of our staff, our machines, our knowledge base, our choice of materials, etc., all working in combination. We also have a strong commitment to stay very close to the film community and to listen to your desires. Plus we have the inherent flexibility of a small manufacturer.

We think that this combination of traits will allow us to make some really great products that a lot of people will love.

I know that our team is working extremely hard to impress with our first product. The proof will be in the pudding, as they say!

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Post by slashmaster » Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:15 am

If it makes it easier for you guys I'll take this stuff in 400 foot or larger cans on cores. Don't need or want those small reels or plastic cartridges. I want economies of scale!...

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Post by kontrabass888 » Wed Sep 28, 2016 9:28 am

filmferrania wrote:
Angus wrote:Whatever Ferrania do, it won't please everyone.
Quite right. No company makes a product that pleases everyone. Such a product would be very boring, I think...

We will obviously make films with their own unique character. This character is a result of our staff, our machines, our knowledge base, our choice of materials, etc., all working in combination. We also have a strong commitment to stay very close to the film community and to listen to your desires. Plus we have the inherent flexibility of a small manufacturer.

We think that this combination of traits will allow us to make some really great products that a lot of people will love.

I know that our team is working extremely hard to impress with our first product. The proof will be in the pudding, as they say!
Do you think we could see new Ferrania film on market before September 2017?

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Post by JeremyC » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:05 pm

Hi, any chance of producing your stock as DS8 on 25 ft or 100 ft rolls?

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Post by Will2 » Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:53 pm

Just having a color reversal stock in 16mm will be great. I remember the old Ektrachrome 160 which was pretty ugly but it had it's own character for sure. Completely different than the Ektachrome 64. When I need perfect I've got Vision 3 stocks. When I want character (which is most of the time on home projects) I'll be all over Ferrania. Bring it on. Imperfections are totally fine.

Also, cutting a few batches for Regular 8mm and DS8 would be a great idea...even if just to see how it sells.

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Post by Angus » Wed Sep 28, 2016 4:35 pm

I am merely an amateur who shoots for fun...but I would just appreciate a colour reversal stock to feed my super 8 and std 8 cameras. The only recent stock I didn't get on with was the Ektachrome VNF, though I did shoot some it looked rather murky to me....but still actually quite nice for night time low light shots.

To be honest, I'd take VNF over nothing!
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Post by Will2 » Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:32 pm

16mm reversal has a great look...kinda like those old Hollywood "home movies" of the stars from the 40's (which were almost never shot by the stars but rather the studio system's PR department). Sharp but with that pastel-like quality.

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Post by Tscan » Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:50 am

Will2 wrote:Just having a color reversal stock in 16mm will be great. I remember the old Ektrachrome 160 which was pretty ugly but it had it's own character for sure. Completely different than the Ektachrome 64. When I need perfect I've got Vision 3 stocks. When I want character (which is most of the time on home projects) I'll be all over Ferrania. Bring it on. Imperfections are totally fine.

Also, cutting a few batches for Regular 8mm and DS8 would be a great idea...even if just to see how it sells.
I agree reversal film is all about character, one that can't be duplicated. My request is some good color and sharpness, maybe low speed. I'd love to eventually see a whole range and some unique cameo stocks, just like Lomography does with stills. Maybe Ferrania could be the Lomography of MP stocks? I think that would be pretty cool :ymdevil:
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Post by filmferrania » Thu Sep 29, 2016 4:03 am

kontrabass888 wrote:Do you think we could see new Ferrania film on market before September 2017?
We had better be on the market WAY before that! By this time next year, I expect we'll have a couple of films. At minimum I would say we'll have at least another ISO or two in our color reversal...

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