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16mm film sources

Post by pzo » Fri Apr 10, 2015 4:22 pm

Hi, new to this forum. Well, and 16mm generally. I've had 8 cans of 16mm family and military films going as far back as 1927! Heck, the format was only 4 years old then. It's a blessing to have a father and grandfather who were professional, published, award winning, and military photographers!

I found a B&H Filmosound projector locally for only $50. Took some minor repairing, but all happy now. Wow, watching my father at age 10!

I was in an antique store yesterday and I bought a B&H 200EE 16mm camera for $20. Didn't care if it worked or not, just part of the ambiance, right? I got home, found out about the magazines, poked around extensively on the intertubes generally, eBay, and the big NYC photo houses. I can get magazines with ancient film on eBay for an OK price. I found how to load the magazines on Youtube. (Whew! Especially in a changing bag!) The B&W I found new was at Adorama, and that is single sprocket holes. Everything on eBay was ancient. Not interested in color, at least at this time, and I would guess it's all sound film.

So, any sources for silent B&W film? Any experiences using old films? I have a fifty year background in photography including plenty of wet darkroom processing. Old film and paper gets foggy due to cosmic rays, eventually. There seems to be a fair amount of 16MM Kodachrome floating around out there, and I know it can be processed into B&W, any experiences there?

I figure worst case I could run sound film by grinding off the appropriate row of sprocket spikes in the magazine.

So, the bottom line question is, "Where is anyone getting B&W silent film?" If anyone is.

Thanks for your time

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Re: 16mm film sources

Post by Will2 » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:08 am

Welcome.

There are a few sources of B&W film but the easiest is probably directly from Kodak. They still have a negative stock and a reversal stock.

http://motion.kodak.com/motion/Products ... /index.htm

The problem is the magazines for that camera. Loading is tricky from what I understand. I would suggest looking for a slightly more modern camera even something like a Kodak K-100 or B&H Filmo that use 100' loads since that is what film is sold in (100' and 400').

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Re: 16mm film sources

Post by richard p. t. » Sat Apr 11, 2015 2:14 am

But unfortunately kodak effectively don't sell any 16mm double perf (2R) stocks any more. orwo and foma are prepared to make it. But you have to deal with the factories directly and buy a quantity. Better to try to change your camera...Or invest another $20 on a different one.
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Re: 16mm film sources

Post by nikonr10 » Sat Apr 11, 2015 10:13 am

pzo wrote:Hi, new to this forum. Well, and 16mm generally. I've had 8 cans of 16mm family and military films going as far back as 1927! Heck, the format was only 4 years old then. It's a blessing to have a father and grandfather who were professional, published, award winning, and military photographers!

I found a B&H Filmosound projector locally for only $50. Took some minor repairing, but all happy now. Wow, watching my father at age 10!

I was in an antique store yesterday and I bought a B&H 200EE 16mm camera for $20. Didn't care if it worked or not, just part of the ambiance, right? I got home, found out about the magazines, poked around extensively on the intertubes generally, eBay, and the big NYC photo houses. I can get magazines with ancient film on eBay for an OK price. I found how to load the magazines on Youtube. (Whew! Especially in a changing bag!) The B&W I found new was at Adorama, and that is single sprocket holes. Everything on eBay was ancient. Not interested in color, at least at this time, and I would guess it's all sound film.

So, any sources for silent B&W film? Any experiences using old films? I have a fifty year background in photography including plenty of wet darkroom processing. Old film and paper gets foggy due to cosmic rays, eventually. There seems to be a fair amount of 16MM Kodachrome floating around out there, and I know it can be processed into B&W, any experiences there?

I figure worst case I could run sound film by grinding off the appropriate row of sprocket spikes in the magazine.

So, the bottom line question is, "Where is anyone getting B&W silent film?" If anyone is.

Thanks for your time
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Re: 16mm film sources

Post by bolextech » Sat Apr 11, 2015 3:14 pm

On Wittner's website, I see they have ORWO UN 54 16mm in double perf.

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Re: 16mm film sources

Post by Eric Milborn » Sat Apr 11, 2015 5:35 pm

Wittner also lists Wittner Chrome 200D double perf
http://www.wittner-cinetec.com/katalog/ ... m.php#2202

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Re: 16mm film sources

Post by pzo » Mon Apr 13, 2015 3:40 am

Thanks all for your suggestions. Shooting something in 16mm isn't a priority, and due to my rather meager old age income, may never happen. I"m happy to have spent $20 for the camera just as a paperweight if need be.

Since posting, a hell of a lot more research shows that options are rather dismal for me. Honestly, I can't for the life of me understand how that G magazine was any kind of commercial success. Wow! 125 seconds! Woo hoo!

I bought two mags loaded with Super XX for just over $20. I don't buy lottery tickets, but I'm willing to gamble $20 on photographic principles. I'm also very, very familiar with using benzotriazole as a fog reducer.

At cinimaphotography.com I became aware of Kodak RAR 2498 reversible panchromatic film, double perf. Some sales on eBay, and some film not so very old. Will keep an eye out.

Also a chap in Georgia, long phone conversations, has 700 mags, but at $20 for two minutes, a non-starter.

Again, thanks for all the thoughts and support!

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