The sight, the sound, the smell of projection:

[Split8mm]

Is it just me, or do others get some enjoyment out of using an actual projector to view real film? I like the clickety-click sound as the frames are pulled down. I like the smell the projector bulb produces when it heats things up.

[S8 Booster]

Say it again!! Repeat!! Say it again!!


R

[Ugo]

ssshhh.... the smell of the projector is DRUG, if the police read these posts, it will be hard for us!
Sorry, the "monkey" is coming.. I have to go to "sniff" my projector....

[Konton]

Have any of you used a Digital Projector?

[tfunch24]

You're not alone.

Though I transfer all my films to video with my telecine projector, I enjoy watching them projected. The projected image really kicks butt, no matter what reversal stock you're using.

I'd edit entirely on film but for two factors:

1. Difficulty in locating splicers, *working* viewers, etc.
2. Everybody I know being a VCR/DVD-owner who stubbornly refuses to invest in sixty-year old technology.

Tom

[S8 Booster]

Have any of you used a Digital Projector?

Using one in y local S8 community side by side with S8 projector at every meeting.

Had a chance to compare PRO8mm S8 neg film on a DIGI projector: Looking good, extremely good but its like looking at a circus show on TV, Where´s the smell and atmosphere?

Still very good.

S8 projected is my big screen favouite and the cheapest high quality big screen around. And image quality? SUPERBB!!

R

[Konton]

Looking good, extremely good but its like looking at a circus show on TV, Where´s the smell and atmosphere?

The same as with any other projector. 37db of fan noise and that smell from the projector due to the bulb heat. Of course you can get a digital projector that makes more noise if you want. But I prefer to hear the audio when I'm watching something.

[studiocarter]

Hey funch,

My coal celler if filled to overflowing with old equipment. INCLUDING lots of editor viewers that WORK. Look around. THey are. If you need one just call. I used to teach film making in the public schools and that take a lot of equipment. Still have it. Need some? mcarter4121@attbi.com

michael

[S8 Booster]

Looking good, extremely good but its like looking at a circus show on TV, Where´s the smell and atmosphere?

The same as with any other projector. 37db of fan noise and that smell from the projector due to the bulb heat. Of course you can get a digital projector that makes more noise if you want. But I prefer to hear the audio when I'm watching something.

Admitably:

There are very big differences in noise levels between different projectors.

I am sure there are more low noise ones but the higher end Bauers of 5xx and 6xx series are the quietest I know of, real joy.

Add no more noise than some spice to the magic.

R

[Old Uncle Barry]

If you love projecting and the associated aromas then like the rest of us you will tolerate the small amount of noise too. Luvly stuff.

Konton: Whats digital ??????????

[Pedro]

why must everything be digital ? Enjoy analog! The human beeing is fully analog, too! A good projection cannot be beaten! Any transfered footage is only a information about the real stuff. Enjoying projected film, is getting into the real thing. This kind of media had been designed for this kind of reproduction.
Pedro

[jimmilling]

I can't help but think all that VHSc tape I recorded family shots on in 20 to 30 years will be muddled garbaged images at best due to tape deterioration. All the images I filmed on my reg8 and sup8 equipment will only need a working projector bulb (it's imperative to have backup bulbs) and 120 VAC. What will all the fancy digital electronics gear need after they're 20+ years old?

I have a 12 reel case documenting a man and wife living in Canada from 1937 thru 1967. I bought the reels & case off of eBay thinking the reels were empty. When I realized there was film, I immediately began projecting. True a lot of the glued splices began to fail but the early Kodachrome (1939) still projected vivid colors with no detectable (by me anyway) fading. I dont think any VHS tape will be able to give the same results after 30 years. (P.S. - I restored the films and kept them in the case. This was a chronical of a man and his wife's life and many of the scenes with the old cars, steam locamotives, parades, etc. were priceless. It would be a crime not to restore them!!).

[tfunch24]

I have two sound projectors--a Canon PS-1000 and a Chinon SP-330MV Magnetic. Both are quiet; I use the Chinon the most since the Canon has developed this annoying habit of shredding film. About a month ago I saw my first sound home movie, and the sound quality exceeded my expectations.

Here's another question for y'all: with the advent of telecine equipment such as the WorkPrinter that allow for easy synching of audio to telecined film clips, do you think that sound editing (as in lip-synched dialog) on sound-striped film is still worth it?

Lacking inexpensive sound carts (yeah, I know about the company in Germany but that's a bit of an extreme option for a lot of us), inexpensive sound striping, and sound projectors (I had to look far and wide to find mine, but then again there's eBay, online retailers...), it seems that finishing on video is a much easier method than finishing on film, unfortunately.

Tom

[paul]

Soundcards are not expensive (like the Creative ones). Don't know how much you want to spend, but with Pedro's devices you can project with sound. Search this site under 'sound" or "synchronising" for finding info on his devices. Of course, it costs a few extra cents and you will need to buy a Bauer and make an EDL in your edit software and cut you film according to it. It's not complicated, a bit confusing at first perhaps.

Paul

[tfunch24]

Paul,

I wasn't talking about sound cards; I was talking about the inexpensive magnetic sound cartridges that Kodak used to sell.

Unless you live in Germany (or in Europe) and want to deal entirely with Wittner, I don't think that the mag striped film cartridges they offer is worth the hassle (camera modifications, etc.)

Tom