"In my image" my partial review

Post by **scottbobo2** » Sat Dec 04, 2004 9:57 pm

A friend of a friend had the movie "In my image " on tape at his home,I was leaving quickly and only saw about 15 minutes of it.First I want to state that it looked like 35mm to me,in fact about 7 people were ther and I was telling them about the film being Super 8 and they said it looked just like any other shot film(meaning 35mm). I can comment on the story line since I didnt see enough but the footage is top notch! I am surprised this film didnt make a bigger Super 8 splash, maybe the story was weak don't know just wondering.Anyway great job(looks way better than Guy Maaddins films)

Post by **Scotness** » Sat Dec 04, 2004 11:34 pm

Hey thanks for that - since I've just finished the remastered and remixed version I'm now trying to get more press - I've done up a press kit which I've sent to alot of magazines and papers here in Australia so hopefully it should get some more coverage in the next month or two - I'm also sending the disc off to one dvd distributor and it's being stocked at Trash Video on consignment as well. So hopefully it will make a bit more of a splash! If anyone wants to see the press release just pm me and I'll email it (include your off site email address) -- I don't want to put it on my site so I can save band width.
Scot

Post by **Patrick** » Sat Dec 04, 2004 11:54 pm

Although I havent seen the film yet, it sounds like a great story to me, Scottness.

Post by **scottbobo2** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 3:50 am

Hey Scott ,what f stop did you shoot a mainly (exteriors.)That is some super claen and sharp super 8 did you use any special lens.I heard so much about "sleep always" on this forum but your film looks close to 35mm, great job.

Post by **MovieStuff** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 3:50 am

Hey, Scott!

I sent a PayPal but it said you weren't registered yet or something. Anyway, the money for the new remastered PAL version is in your PayPal account waiting for you. Send me the new version as soon as is convenient.

Roger

Post by **Scotness** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 10:27 pm

Hi guys - I'm afraid I don't know what f-stop it was since I was on the other side of the camera most of the time but it did vary with the lighting - we didn't have to try and light to keep it at a certain f-stop because the lense was good enough to give a good image at all ranges -- though I must say this is something we learnt in retrospect - which was good !

But we just metered and set and shot wherever it was -- a couple of the scenes were too dark but that was inexperience on our part - David the DOP wrote an article about the lighing of the film but I can't remember if he talks about it in there.

About 99% of the film was K40 which accounts for the low grain and low lattitude - and it does look pretty good on a tv but it's not 35! - though thanks for the compliments

Roger - perhaps you were trying to use my old email address at Paypal - I just checked and the money not's there which is good because you don't have to pay! - you helped me so much on it and did those wonderful plane shots!!! I'll send a copy out this week 8)

Also about the story/script - I'm going to be posting that on my site soon with other film scripts and plays etc - in one big pdf file

Scot

Post by **MovieStuff** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 1:29 pm

Scotness wrote: Roger - perhaps you were trying to use my old email address at Paypal

I don't even know your old email address. I simply clicked on the PayPal button that you set on your page. After that, it asked me to log in and hit "pay", which I did. I never had to enter your email address because you had already filled it in. So you need to revisit your settings on your PayPal account buttons because there may be more people that have sent you money and are waiting on their DVD! 8O

Roger

Post by **Angus** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:17 pm

Where the lighting is good (or the darkness suits the mood) and the jitter isn't present...In My Image looks as good as any TV movie. I showed a 4 minute section to some friends for comments and nobody guessed it was on super 8, they all thought it was a TV movie shot the way any other TVM is.

As for the story, it is pretty strong actually. I personally found the script a little slow moving in places but the characters are mostly engaging and keep you interested in the outcome. It is perhaps more thought provoking than outright entertainment but that's not to say it isn't entertaining.

really for a first attempt at serious film making it is a strong effort. Something that all us super 8 dabblers could aspire to.

Post by **scottbobo2** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:30 pm

I totally agree with the last post ,everyone thought it was a regular tv movie,no one thought it looked dated at all,I guess Scott you realized k-40 is still the king for the broadcast market(we dont always have to re-invent the wheel) .One question ,I know over time we become our own worst critics but when you first viewed the ranked footage what was your reaction on a 1 to 10 scale. 10- being ,this looks like it did projected!
1-being this can't be what I was projecting. Finally.looking back should you have ranked to digibeta instead of minidv ?

Post by **Scotness** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 12:09 am

MovieStuff wrote:
Scotness wrote: Roger - perhaps you were trying to use my old email address at Paypal

I don't even know your old email address. I simply clicked on the PayPal button that you set on your page. After that, it asked me to log in and hit "pay", which I did. I never had to enter your email address because you had already filled it in. So you need to revisit your settings on your PayPal account buttons because there may be more people that have sent you money and are waiting on their DVD! 8O

Roger

Thanks for pointing that out Roger - I changed me email address with Paypal but didn't realise I had to change it in the settings on that page which refers the buttons to Paypal as well. Rather than people paying and missing out it meant the exact opposite - people wouldn't be able to pay from those links at all! I did have a weird experience with paypal once though - when I changed my email address I nominated my new one as my primary address to receive all correspondance etc and the old one was just left there sitting under it in a list of potential email address I could select from - so I left it at that and got no notifications from paypal for a month or so - so I thought I was getting no purchases then I decided to log in one day and saw there were two which had been sitting there for a few weeks! It wasn't until I removed the other email address altogether from Paypal's records that it would actually send emails on to the account which i had nominated as my primary account to receive emails.

Angus wrote:really for a first attempt at serious film making it is a strong effort.

Thanks Angus - but there's a multiplicity of things which we did wrong or didn't do which I want to do in my next film....

scottbobo2 wrote:One question ,I know over time we become our own worst critics but when you first viewed the ranked footage what was your reaction on a 1 to 10 scale. 10- being ,this looks like it did projected!
1-being this can't be what I was projecting. Finally.looking back should you have ranked to digibeta instead of minidv ?

On a 1 to 10 I'd say somewhere up around 10 because it looked better than video footage and it looked better than any other telecine I'd seen of Super 8 but I wasn't expecting it to look like the projectored image - so i wasn't disapointed because I knew I wasn't expecting that. As for telecine to beta I'm glad I didn't because it would have added extra time and money into the post production process which I couldn't really afford and didn't really need - it was always headed for dvd and super 8 ranked to miniDV looks great for that. Early on when I was fantasising someone would give me a blow up I was thinking either from a 2K intermediate or optically not from a beta telecine. And then we ran into some of those jitter problems... it's not on that much of the film but it's enough to make blowing up a problem.

Scot

Post by **steve hyde** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 8:29 am

Scott,

I just did the paypal thing and it worked just fine. (as far as I can tell) I look forward to seeing your work.

Cheers,

Steve

Post by **S8W** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 9:06 am

I saw this film at a friends a while back I don't wanna be rude but I am sorry to rain on your parade - the film is crap! There's no other way to put it.

It doesn't matter what the remastring is and so on. The camera work was poor the exposure bad, editing sloppy and the acting was awful.

On the other hand Sleep Aways is another film I saw recently while I have certain reservations about it in some areas it is a clever film that imaginatively tells a good story - impressive.

Maybe I watched a completely different film to everyone else here, but please if something is bad its bad - so dont go on about it.

Tanya

Post by **matt5791** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 11:09 am

I think that's a bit harsh.

I think that it is certainly a really good effort, but, as Scot has said, it suffered in in post a bit.

Under the circumstances it is really good, however

Angus wrote:...In My Image looks as good as any TV movie..

being honest, and I think Scot would agree with me, I think you need you eyes tested. It is what it is. An excellent effort with the tools and budget available.

Matt

Post by **Scotness** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 11:52 am

Thanks Steve - it is working too - just checked.

Tanya - thanks too ( I think :lol: )

- the point is - it is what it is - it has it's good points and it's bad points - I've learnt alot from it and I'm taking that to my next two productions now - so I'm happy

Scot

Post by **scottbobo2** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 2:11 pm

I watched it in a room full of MTV generation people and no one commented at all on the look of the film,it looked like any other film on t.v
As for the story I only caught about 12-15 minutes of actual footage so I can't comment(acting,plot,pace...etc) Bottom line a Super 8 feature was made ! Here in the U.S 35mm is used more than a prostitute and 80% of the films are garbage