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Any suggestions on the following. I purchased a dv 200 board for use with my workprinter. I have been unsatisifed with the results because of DV compression. I have just purchased a used Matrox Digisuite analog capture board and high quality analog 3 CCD 2/3inch Sony video camera. I have not yet added the board to my computer. My question is this. Can I use the premiere that came with the DV200 or do I need another version of premiere.

I understand that this version may not work as pinnacle doesnt really want people to buy the DV 200 board in order to get their hands on a cheap cost premiere product. I spoke with Roger Evans and he wasnt sure.
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The DV200 board is exactly the same as the one I'm using, though mine is called StudioDV and costs only a fraction of the DV200 board. The difference is the software. The board is identical. You can actually download the DV200 software and install it with your "standalone" Premiere and get the exact same product.

However, the DV200/StudioDV board is working perfectly for me though I don't use the DV200 software. I use the plain standalone Premiere 6.5 (previously I used Premiere 6.0) with my StudioDV card and it works great. My experience with the DV200 card's software (Pinnacle profiles in Premiere) is that it crashes Premiere more often.

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I use analog video a lot and have an analog capture card that captures hardware MJPEG, I have had nothing but problems trying to get premiere to work with MJPEG, it doesn't seem to like using external codecs. I have tried many different codecs, and while they work fine with other software Premiere tends to crash or act really weird with most of them. If you want to do uncompressed video this won't be a problem but that takes LOTS of space and playing it takes a really fast harddrive setup. When I last tried this I was using Premiere 6. Has anyone been successfull in doing something similar?

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I would really like to know, but how do I actually do an uncompressed capture? I use the standard capture in Premiere.

How much quality is/could be lost?

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I would assume if you set your file type in Premiere to uncompressed when you start the project, and then use the frame by frame capture with an analog card you will get uncompressed video. Your computer isn't fast enough to do realtime uncompressed video capture, but I would assume it would work frame by frame. I use some tools in Linux for my videocapture needs.

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Hmm.. I'll play around with this later. Btw. My computer is a 1Ghz, 512MB RAM and 80GB RAID1 striped disks (IDE). It's working pretty well, but I think I'll bump up to 1GB RAM soon.

Oh, and I only have a digital firewire card (StudioDV from Pinnacle), no analogue yet.

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Thanks for the replys

I thought that I had to use premiere for stop motion capture using the workprinter. After capture I transfer all files to my mac for compositing and image adjustment using after effects, FCP and commotion pro. All data is transferred using pc maclan transfer.

I really dont use premiere at all except for stop motion capture. So my question is how to obtain uncompressed capture with analog equipment. The premiere 6.0 that came with the DV 200 board doesnt appear to offer D1 or other uncompressed capture codec.

Am I missing something? Whenever I start premiere, the options to use are standard DV NTSC or DV PAL settings. I cant find any option for D1 or similar options.
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It has been a while since I have used premiere so forgive me if I can't be to specific. I believe it is not one of the preconfigured setups such as DV that it offers, but you can do a custom one, and select uncompressed video, this isnt D1 or any other broadcast standard but simply an avi with uncompressed video frames in it, im not sure if they are RGB or some form of YUV (I believe RGB). The same might be possible with qucktime files, im not sure.
I have only tried this with regular Premiere 6.0 so I am not sure about the version you have.

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