New Vision2 Stock Demo

[Nigel]

I just saw the Kodak Demo of the three new Vision2 stocks. All I can say is WOW!!! They looked great....I was really impressed with the 100T and 200T--They had projected it in a few configurations--

1)Print off the Neg.
2)IP--IN--RP
3)DI

All three looked great and the S16 cut seamlessly in the slower stocks. In the faster speeds you could see the S16 but it looked far and away better than the older stocks.

Kodak also was very open with the fact that the V2 200T will be made in Super8 and will co-exsist with the currently available Vision S8. They also said very clearly that the V2 500T in S8 will not happen. However, they seemed to back S8 very solidly. If Kodak keeps pushing forward Film will continue to dominate the industry...

Good Luck

[S8 Booster]

......... They also said very clearly that the V2 500T in S8 will not happen. However, they seemed to back S8 very solidly. If Kodak keeps pushing forward Film will continue to dominate the industry...

Good Luck

Does this: :?: mean that there are 2 different Kodak Companies or at least one secret one not communicating with the other?
http://www.super8.nl/english/e_film_new ... iontwo</td>
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[David M. Leugers]

Thanks for the news Nigel! Great info even if Vision 500T is not going to happen in S-8mm. I think that with the lattitude of Vision 200T most will be able to get suitable low light images and you could always push the stock 1 stop for a 400 ASA. I was hoping the slower stocks especially the 50D and 100T Vision stocks would be available in S-8mm, but Vision 2 in 200T has got to be a great overall stock. Besides, when Paul gets his perforating machine going, I'll be looking to shoot Vision 2 stocks in DS-8mm !


David M. Leugers

[jukkasil]

Erkki Tikkanen received today this reply from Frank of Reversal Lab about Vision2 500T for super 8:

"Yes, I can sell and process this great new super8 film!
Frank"

[matt5791]

This seems strange about the 500T as I was told categorically by the super8 guy at Kodak motion picture imaging in the UK that it was going to happen :?

Matt

[Nigel]

All I can say about the 500T is that is must be a "European Only" product. I ask them about it last night and they said--No that is was not available. So I guess yes--There are two Kodaks.

Good Luck

[Yemi]

Kodak really need some consistent marketing. Are the needs of European super8 filmmakers THAT different from those in other parts of the world? I've seen this problem before when I used to shoot DS8 K25 on a regular basis.....people cited pre-paid kodachrome processing as the stumbling block. That shouldn't be an issue with negative stocks. Frank from super8 Reversal Lab promised to send me the catalog number ASAP. Should be interesting to hear the response from Kodak Motion Picture in LA when I quote the cat #....

"We don't sell that product in the US....generally there tends to be more natural light available on the West Coast".

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Yemi

[marc]

I guess A vision2 200T will yield a finer grain than the Vision2 500T except that you would need more light to shoot it in.

[SubZero]

I don't get this at all... :? Why would Kodak end up selling Vision2 200T only in States and 500T only in Europe?!? Is it because there is more light in States then in Europe :roll: Right... I just want to get my hands on 200T. Don't care that much about the 500... Oh why, oh why... ](*,)

[FilmIs4Ever]

Nigel, could you please explain more fully the abreviations you used in numbers two and three? I know IN stands for internegative, and I think DI must stand for digital intermediate :? Please help a still photo guy out with your crazy "industry lingo"

Regards

[mattias]

Why would Kodak end up selling Vision2 200T only in States

where did you hear that? i heard that the vision2 would silently replace vision in the surveillance/200t carts just like vision replaced exr a few years ago.

and 500T only in Europe?!?

i don't know, but i can guess. they have a deal with super8sound? kodak usa don't believe in the product but kodak europe does? (yes, there are several kodaks.) the production and distribution of this stock follows an existing path which already is europe only? (not uncommon either.)

/matt

[mattias]

I know IN stands for internegative, and I think DI must stand for digital intermediate

yes, and ip is interpositive and rp release print, reject picture or rear projection. i'm guessing the first in this case. ;-)

/matt

[SubZero]

where did you hear that? i heard that the vision2 would silently replace vision in the surveillance/200t carts just like vision replaced exr a few years ago.

Sorry about that... It was a just a misunderstanding on my part. I read few messages here and there and ended up with an idea that 200T wouldn't be available in Europe.

Anyway, Frank from Reversal Lab actually told me that according to Kodak France, Vision2 200T will be available within few weeks. :biggrin:

[matt5791]

Just spoken to Kodak Motion picture UK - Vision 2 500T is for definite - for everywhere. It is being manufactured now as I write this post.

What will not be available is the Expression variant

Matt

[Yemi]

Frank from Super8 Reversal lab. gave me the cat# for Vision2 500T super8: 528 4476

I tried to find out about availability from Kodak Motion Picture in LA but no joy. The salesperson told me that the cat # is legit but the film is not in stock and she suggested I try again in a couple of months. Couldn't get a price from her either.

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Yemi