analog video card

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Ive just received my most excellent workprinter from Roger Evans at Movie stuff. Needless to say I am very happy with it and consider it as wonderfully built with a total personal touch. Roger spent a good 4 or more hours with me on various issues not even related to the workprinter. My suggestion is to forget rank processing and have total control!! Buy a fantastically built workprinter. (enough plugs for you roger)

Anyhow, the weak link in my system is DV capture. Im going to go the analog 4.2.2. way and want to know what used boards any of you might suggest for transfer into the computer. I am using film mostly for green screen and really need the resolution for a good key.

Help would be greatly appreciated.


George

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I assume that since you have a workprinter you will be using a digital camcorder with it. I use my cc as my "capture device" via firewire.

Does your digital camcorder have an analog input? I elimininated 100% of my capture problems that I was having with my analog capture card dropped frames, etc.) when I began to use the camcorder in this way, along with Win XP. In my opinion, a good firewire card (IEEE 1394) and cable, XP, and DV capture software of course, is all one needs with such a setup.

[jessh]

If you are going to do analog capture make sure you get a capture card with hardware MJPEG compression, otherwise your computer will most likely have a very hard time doing full resolution and framerate. What type of camera do you plan on using? I believe atleast some minidv cameras do compression and then decompression before outputing via their analog jack, so an analog feed off of a minidv camera may give you no better results than a firewire one (and possibly worse ones) You may be able to find a good deal on a second hand high end Hi8 camera that would outperform a minidv one for your applications.

~Jess

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I have a Sony PD 150 which is dvcam and 3ccd, it is timecode adjustable etc. I dont think any 8mm will work as the resolution will only be about 400 lines while my pd 150 provides full NTSC resolution. I plan on using a 1/2 or 2/3 inch 3CCD camera and then capturing using stop motion via premiere.

The camera I will purchase will have a minimim of 700 to 800 lines resolution. Im going analog to get full 4.2.2. resolution. Please note that resolution is the reason Im going analog. I have plenty of DV options but but the DV codec compression stinks!!! And there is no way currently to get around the firewire compression. Perhaps I can try S video out but I dont believe it will all that great. Im going to call Promax where I purchased my camera and see if there is any other option.

[crimsonson]

the PD150 is about 500 lines of res

"The camera I will purchase will have a minimim of 700 to 800 lines resolution"

You mean maximum - because unless you going HD it aint going to get higher than 800.
If analog then you are looking for a camera that is broadcast level - will set you back about $6000 + lens - plus the component out interface.
a used Sony BVW 100 is around $4500 + lens (anywhere from several hundred to several thousand). Check Ebay

Pinnacle Targa 2000 or 3000

Matrox DigiSuit DTV - had DV25 and DV50 option (4:2:2 at 3:1 compression) and MPEG 2.

Super 8 is really only about 800 - and that if everything is in order (great lens, micro fine grain stock, exposed correctly, etc).

Also - the BetaSP is neitehr 4:1:1 NOR 4:2:2. The Chroma is measured in bandwidth - which if converted in digital realm is slightly less than DV's 4:1:1. BetaSP cams tend to better than what most of us see because- BetaSP have 1) much better lens and 2) have high end DSP.
We usually only see and KNOW consumer based DV. The DSR 500 and DVC PRo ENG cams can compete and beat many analog cams.

Anything 2/3 CCD I can think of will set you back the cost of a sedan or luxury car.


Anyway - once you are done - how will you output?