What's the most exciting thing happening in Super 8 right no

[Scotness]

Is anyone making any features - or really involved shorts? Any super drives or home made perforating machines??

What's the most exciting thing going on right now?

Just looking for a good read.......

Roger any chance your JQ sequence will be available on Super 8!!?

Scot

[Nicholas Kovats]

Well, Scott...

...Jean-Louis Seguin has just modified my Bolex H16 Rex-4 and inserted the H8 film transport to produce an exciting new native spherical 8mm Cinemascope format (1:2.4).

The actual frame area = 10.52mm x 3.75mm (1:2.8) and is wider than Cinemascope. Both 1:2.8 and 1:2.4 masks will be visible in the viewfinder.

Digital scanner/extraction process in custom 16mm transfer bay (Justin Lowell)is currently being discussed.

Initiated discussion with Mr. Edward Nowill regrading reperfing Kodak Vision 3 50D/200T and 500T.

A longtime dream coming to fruition.

[slashmaster]

I can tell you about something I'm trying to find for my projectors. I want to find a power converter that changes the 60 hertz ac into higher hertz so I can have fast forward or reverse without having to mod the projector. If I can find one I'll also be able to use it for my regular 8 and perhaps a 16mm too. I could order one now but I'm looking for one just powerful enough for a projector at the right price.

[ECNtoo]

Well, Scott...

...Jean-Louis Seguin has just modified my Bolex H16 Rex-4 and inserted the H8 film transport to produce an exciting new native spherical 8mm Cinemascope format (1:2.4).

The actual frame area = 10.52mm x 3.75mm (1:2.8) and is wider than Cinemascope. Both 1:2.8 and 1:2.4 masks will be visible in the viewfinder.

Digital scanner/extraction process in custom 16mm transfer bay (Justin Lowell)is currently being discussed.

Initiated discussion with Mr. Edward Nowill regrading reperfing Kodak Vision 3 50D/200T and 500T.

Is there an advantage to this over using a 16mm bolex with a modified h8 gate?
A longtime dream coming to fruition.

[Scotness]

Hi guys - sounds like great projects -- just for personal use or any plans to make more and sell them on?

Scot

[bolextech]

I found some information about this format in a very interesting article written by Mr. Guy Edmonds entitled: "Amateur widescreen; or, some forgotten skirmishes in the battle of the gauges" published in Film History, Volume 19, pp. 401–413, 2007

Here is the pertinent section in the article:

"The most elegant of the 1955 systems was
Emel’s Panascope which used the full width of unslit
8mm film (16mm) on which to record a picture with
the standard height of the 8mm frame. The handsome
camera and projector were produced in small
numbers. The width of the frame was reduced slightly
from its full potential because Emel thought it would
produce a format that was too wide. The gate mask
employed had a ratio of 2.2:1 and like other such
systems could be switched to normal 8mm format.
Trade interest in Panascope failed to match the enthusiastic
public reception of its 1955 display.
In America the same idea was taken up by
Sonex Cinema Engineering Company and given the
name of Dual-Eight. Sonex was not a manufacturer
in its own right, but would convert an 8mm camera
and projector, typically a Bolex H8 camera and
Mansfield projector. A sales leaflet stated: ‘Sonex
Dual-Eight is basically a scaled down version of the
high quality camera and projector systems being
used for theatrical films. It is to 8mm exactly what
70mm photography is to 35mm’. The Emel and
Sonex systems’ logical rearrangement of the picture
on a conventional filmstrip was a neat solution to the
problem of width. However, the achievement was
undermined by the habit of laboratories to return the
film slit into two, in the manner of standard 8mm.
These short-lived, commercially-produced
formats are pertinent to the subsequent history of
format design by amateurs, who could re-examine
them in a milieu unbounded by the restraints of
commerce."

Panascope is sometimes mistakenly referred to as Panoscope.
The moniker Pan-8 is used later in the came article.

There is a similar idea using double-super-8 film called Span-8.
This was the brainchild of American Widescreen filmmaker Bill Fleming.
I would like to know what equipment would have been used for projection.

The complete article can be downloaded here:
muse.jhu.edu/journals/film_history/v019/19.4edmonds01.pdf

Cheers,
Jean-Louis

[aj]

Is anyone making any features - or really involved shorts? Any super drives or home made perforating machines??

What's the most exciting thing going on right now?

Just looking for a good read.......

Roger any chance your JQ sequence will be available on Super 8!!?

Scot

This in the thread - Super 8mm Film on American Idol viewtopic.php?f=1&t=22351- seems quite exciting...
Who gets that many views and who worked on the production of such a showcase?

[Nicholas Kovats]

That is absolutely fascinating, Jean-Louis.

Thank you for the link. Projection modification for this format is not a burning priority but it would be nice for one of the last remaining hardcore 8mm film projector based festivals, e.g. 8 Fest here in Toronto.

[Nicholas Kovats]

Jean-Louis.

The PDF link is only a short summary. Were you able to download the entire article without a subscription?

[bolextech]

That is really strange. The link worked when I am at the University's computer but not from my home computer. Anyway, I downloaded the article to my computer at the office but I won't be there before Tuesday morning. I can email it to you then.

Cheers,
Jean-Louis

[camera8mm]

well i finally got around to buy a roll of ektachome 100d for my canon ds8 to shoot but it arrived too late for shooting on vacation so I'll have to shoot something else.

[bolextech]

Here, for everyone's benefit, is a link to Rapidshare where you can download the excellent article about Amateur Widescreen:

https://rapidshare.com/files/218403283/ ... screen.pdf

Cheers,
Jean-Louis