inside amtrak?

[grainy]

hi folks - has anyone ever shot inside an amtrak train, both looking out the window and scenes inside?
I'm thinking about trying color for this but a bit worried that the lights are going to make it muddy.
There's no chance of bringing extra lights, the way I'm thinking of doing it.
thanks!
G

[einzelhaft83]

I have done that....of course it was 30 plus years ago. I was using a Kodak Instamatic. I think it was a bit muddy, but some of the inside shots were usable. I wasn't sure about those as it was not especially bright in there.

[Will2]

Exposure will be the problem with the bright light from windows. Use an external meter and manually set (and lock) your exposure.

Keep in mind that for correct exposure inside the windows will be totally blown out.

[aj]

hi folks - has anyone ever shot inside an amtrak train, G

Better make clear to your fellow travellers that you are going to film. In the current mindset many may think you going to machingun them And then you may wind up on a Caribean Island before you know it.

[S8 Booster]

a Canon 1014 XLS will easily match in/outdoor transitions filming in auto mode without anyone knowing what happened ;)

shoot...

[grainy]

Anyone care to comment on color vs. black/white? My feeling is b/w is gonna come out best - it's not the fastest but my Sankyo xl420 has an f1.2 lens, and the potentially ugly amtrack-lit color concerns me with kodak neg stock.
G

[Wade]

I did shoot test footage inside an Amtrack in California central valley two years ago. I used 200T Vision 2 color negative. As was said above, lock your exposure when shooting the interior. Latitude on the color negative stock was good enough so that the passing exterior landscape was overexposed, but not entirely bown out while the interior was properly exposed.

[grainy]

I did shoot test footage inside an Amtrack in California central valley two years ago. I used 200T Vision 2 color negative. As was said above, lock your exposure when shooting the interior. Latitude on the color negative stock was good enough so that the passing exterior landscape was overexposed, but not entirely bown out while the interior was properly exposed.

Hi wade - how about the quality of the color itself? Did the combination of interior lights (flourescent? ) and window light mess up the color temperature?
thanks!
G

[Wade]

[quote="grainyHi wade - how about the quality of the color itself? Did the combination of interior lights (flourescent? ) and window light mess up the color temperature?
thanks!
G[/quote]

There won't be a clear answer to your question because part of the reason I selected color negative was to see if I could telecine and invert it myself. The results were ok, but I was not completely successful at removing the orange mask. As I recall the interior train carriage color was affected by the fourescent lights. I am curious myself, now. What I will do is see if I can run off just those shots over the weekend and upload them. I did subsequently use that test footage for a family film which I recently put on Vimeo with a different codec and settings from what I had originally used last year. There is a color corrected shot in my uncle's kitchen with mixed lighting (I think it was mixed, but they might not have had any lights on) if you want to see it.
http://www.vimeo.com/20022580

[grainy]

There is a color corrected shot in my uncle's kitchen with mixed lighting (I think it was mixed, but they might not have had any lights on) if you want to see it.
http://www.vimeo.com/20022580

Hi Wade - interesting clip. I actually liked the TriX stuff best -- the outdoor footage in yard is quite beautiful. Did you add a bit of tint? I thought the color was really nice here and there but blue'd out too much for me...
Thanks for sharing!
G

[Wade]

Hi Wade - interesting clip. I actually liked the TriX stuff best -- the outdoor footage in yard is quite beautiful. Did you add a bit of tint? I thought the color was really nice here and there but blue'd out too much for me...
Thanks for sharing!
G

Not sure about being blue. Looks ok from my end. You say the B&W was tinted?
Anyway. here is the Amtrak footage. This is how it looks coming off the telecine with no color correction. Forgot I shot into the sun some.

http://www.vimeo.com/20187825

[grainy]

Not sure about being blue. Looks ok from my end. You say the B&W was tinted?
Anyway. here is the Amtrak footage. This is how it looks coming off the telecine with no color correction. Forgot I shot into the sun some.

http://www.vimeo.com/20187825

This is great stuff, Wade. Re; the color -- I think my mild colorblindness is getting the best of me. Compared to the uncorrected stuff, I see what you've done now. Love the B/W bit at the end. I think when I have at it I'll use that approach. For me, the great thing about the POV from the train window is you never know what you'll see next.
thanks for posting
G