I'm (hopefully) going to pickup a Canon 310xl at some point soon to try some night filming. I'll try a test roll of tri-x as soon as I got one and see how it turns out and hopefully shoot at night when it snows later in the winter.
I also thought about maybe asking nano lab to push process it but have never seen pushed tri-x before. I guess it could be pushed by 2stops max before it got far too grainy. Anyone have any examples of pushed tri-x.
Also there are some drawbacks to using the 310xl. I think focusing could be a problem, as it has no range finder, and it's auto exposure only but I would just tape off the meter as would shoot wide open anyway at night.
When I looked into an XL camera and through old posts I noticed a lot of talk about aperture and shutter degree, but a problem is also how much light is lost but to the viewfinder and metering (if ttl which the 310xl is not).
As I mentioned in this thread.... http://filmshooting.com/scripts/forum/v ... 605613ddae
...I recently noticed that my Nizo 561 macro loses just over 2 stops due to the viewfinder, etc... and it is the same at any focal length 7 to 56. Which made me realise you need to factor in shutter angle, aperture and light loss (which occurs for various reasons) when considering a camera for low light situations.
I though I would try the Canon as it's cheap, has an XL shutter (220), F1.0 lens and no ttl so as a much light as possible gets to the film.
Any thoughts or examples of tri-x at night or tri-x pushed would be greatly appreciated.
Chris.
Push processed Tri-x at night and Canon 310xl
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Chris,
I used a 310xl in the 80's all the time including at night in Winter. It has fast lens, excellent auto exposure and, although I was always concerned about the focusing everything used to come out sharp.
First cam I bought when I came back to S8 this year was a 310 but I've not used it much. I never tried pushing Tri x but I'd like to see it. I reckon 1 stop. 2 stops max.
I used a 310xl in the 80's all the time including at night in Winter. It has fast lens, excellent auto exposure and, although I was always concerned about the focusing everything used to come out sharp.
First cam I bought when I came back to S8 this year was a 310 but I've not used it much. I never tried pushing Tri x but I'd like to see it. I reckon 1 stop. 2 stops max.
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i'm waiting for my 310XL to arrive, seems to be the perfect cam for shooting gigs. i was wondering about pushing tri-x too but couldn't think how to control the iris, the tape idea is awesome! i guess you could use an external light meter and a selection of ND filters for some hardcore exposure control. at that aperture you'd probably get very cinematic shallow depth of field effects too, though that might be more of a curse than a blessing with the lack of any range finder (bring out the tape measure).
Chris,
Are you just experimenting by pushing the Tri X or are you worried about lack of light?
I shot loads of K40 on my 310XL at night ie midnight in dead of UK winter expecting it to be underexposed. But I'd had the process paid stock lying round for ages and was bored. So I had a carefree attitude and went out and shot it all expecting the worst. I was shocked when it all came out perfectly exposed by just lamplight amd the occasional passing car headlights. So Tri x unpushed could be enough. Pushed one stop should be ok. I agree with mr8mm.
mr8mm,
How good is the autofocus on the AF310XL?
Are you just experimenting by pushing the Tri X or are you worried about lack of light?
I shot loads of K40 on my 310XL at night ie midnight in dead of UK winter expecting it to be underexposed. But I'd had the process paid stock lying round for ages and was bored. So I had a carefree attitude and went out and shot it all expecting the worst. I was shocked when it all came out perfectly exposed by just lamplight amd the occasional passing car headlights. So Tri x unpushed could be enough. Pushed one stop should be ok. I agree with mr8mm.
mr8mm,
How good is the autofocus on the AF310XL?
I've got a 310xl, and now that I read all this it makes me wanna try the Tri-X.. I've never used it before, neither have I used the 310XL before (since it doesnt meter 64t properly from what I've heard..) I'm thinking of getting a roll or 2 Tri-X film and try it.. Would it work iindoors with the 310xl?
Greg,
I've just put a roll of Tri x in the 310xl and, in a 12 x 12 foot room with one naked 100w bulb the red UNDERexposure meter was no-where to be seen.
I haven't a clue about overexposure if that's what you're thinking. I've only used it outdoors at night with the 310. Used Tri x outdoors in good light with Canon 814 AZ, though and exposure was fine. So, I'd guess 310 would be. Auto everything gives you no clues. Run a test.
I've just put a roll of Tri x in the 310xl and, in a 12 x 12 foot room with one naked 100w bulb the red UNDERexposure meter was no-where to be seen.
I haven't a clue about overexposure if that's what you're thinking. I've only used it outdoors at night with the 310. Used Tri x outdoors in good light with Canon 814 AZ, though and exposure was fine. So, I'd guess 310 would be. Auto everything gives you no clues. Run a test.
Yes, the reason I talked about pushing tri-x was that I thought it would need it. I have 1/2 a cart of tri-x left over from a film I shot last month I'm going to try that under normal UK street lights first.
I have a 310xl on it's way to me now. So will shoot something this weekend.
Happy shooting!
Chris.
I have a 310xl on it's way to me now. So will shoot something this weekend.
Happy shooting!
Chris.