cross processing kodachrome...any suggestions?

[ECNtoo]

i just came into a roll of k25. ill be shooting a registration test with part of it and comparing the results to the andec registration video as as a base of comparison. ill also be mucking around and shooting various things

ill not be able to get the roll to switzerland before the kodachrome processing deadline. this doesnt worry me as i dont mind doing the test in black and white.

before i do anything, does anybody have any suggestions as to what process i should get the film developed by?

are there any shooting considerations i should be aware of?

what kind of look can i expect?

i understand processing kodacrhome till film with b & w chemistry makes a contrasty blue look, ive also heard yellow. any ideas?

can john pytlak help?

[aj]

i just came into a roll of k25. ill be shooting a registration test with part of it and comparing the results to the andec registration video as as a base of comparison. ill also be mucking around and shooting various things

ill not be able to get the roll to switzerland before the kodachrome processing deadline. this doesnt worry me as i dont mind doing the test in black and white.

before i do anything, does anybody have any suggestions as to what process i should get the film developed by?

are there any shooting considerations i should be aware of?

what kind of look can i expect?

i understand processing kodacrhome till film with b & w chemistry makes a contrasty blue look, ive also heard yellow. any ideas?

can john pytlak help?

3 months is too short for exposing some Kodachrome testfilm?
You might prefer to get it shot in time rather than finding some BW process alternative. It is all very cumbersome compared to mailing it.

[ECNtoo]

because i still havent found a workind ds8 camera and dont know if the ones i have can get fixed before then or if i canfind another one in time

[aj]

because i still havent found a workind ds8 camera and dont know if the ones i have can get fixed before then or if i canfind another one in time

Supposedly 16mm and DS8 are excempt from lab-closure. The 16mm machine stays on... No garantee Check with Kodak yourself.

[David M. Leugers]

If you are shooting on DS-8mm, then there is always the option of shooting it and then sending it to Dwaynes for processing. I understand they will process Kodachrome for some time yet to come. My experiences with both Bolex and Canon DS-8mm machines have been truely marvelous. Good luck!


David M. Leugers

[John_Pytlak]

KODACHROME film has no dye-forming couplers in it, so the only way to get a color image is to process it in the K-14 KODACHROME process. Any other color process will yield clear film without an image, and will be contaminated by the rem-jet backing. You can also process it in a B&W process to get a B&W image.

[ECNtoo]

john, are you suggesting that proccessing it as b & w reversal will do the trick? any idea as to what sort of exposure would work? and what kind of results one can expect?

thank you

[gianni1]

John you are fabulous, thank you so much for viewing and commenting with us....

I can get borax powder or boric acid locally... for helping to shake loose the backing in home processing. What's the difference and is there an alternative to Twenty Mule Team Borax? For instance Washing Soda (Sodium Carbonante), or is that only for the developer stage?

Gianni

[John_Pytlak]

When you use a non-standard process, you are on your own. When purchasing chemicals for processing, you should always try to get chemicals that are pure, and certified for processing use (e.g., "Photographic Grade"). "Off the grocery shelf" chemicals like lye (sodium hydroxide), Borax, and washing soda (sodium carbonate) may contain additives or contaminants that will adversely affect processing results.

[Angus]

John is right about chemicals. Off the shelf might be OK but there's a risk of contaminant chemicals that, especially with small gague film, could significantly effect the results. Do you want to take the risk?

I am lucky in that I have access to laboratory grade and analytical grade chemicals 8)

Thebrowniecameraguy on this forum (are you still about?) had some success processing Kodachrome II as B&W reversal.

With all Kodachromes (other than their native process) the general idea has been to process as B&W negative, and remove the remjet layer with borax. I've done it once with a KII film and to be honest it is messy and time consuming...and in my case yielded nothing.

As John says, chances are Kodachrome will not respond to any colour processing chemicals such as E6 or C41.

[John_Pytlak]

Since KODACHROME film has no dye-forming couplers (the couplers are in part of the process, not the film), an E-6, C-41, ECN-2 or other modern color process will develop the silver image, not form any dyes, and then bleach and fix out the silver image that was developed, yielding CLEAR film without an image.

[ECNtoo]

You can also process it in a B&W process to get a B&W image.

ok, how exactly do i do this, via B & W reversal processing methods like tri-x and plus x?

[John_Pytlak]

You can also process it in a B&W process to get a B&W image.

ok, how exactly do i do this, via B & W reversal processing methods like tri-x and plus x?

You are on your own, since it is a non-standard way of processing the film. Labs like Rocky Mountain Film Lab offer NEGATIVE B&W processing of old K-12 KODACHROME films, which is probably more predictable than the slightly more complex reversal processing.

[gianni1]

I'm just pretending it's old style Panotomic X, and use Ilford film developer, but add two steps, 1) a pre wash and 2) a pre developer bath in Borax solution that I'm purchasing from for £3.00 from Boots the chemist tomorrow..

I didn't want to wait a few days longer or spend the £1.50 some Boric Acid I found online in the UK from http://www.greenshop.co.uk or silverprint.co.uk or http://www.retrophotographic.com

Just shot a test roll of my ancient K40 Regular 8 in my Russian DS8-M Quarz, plan is to process it this weekend. I don't have a splitter yet...

What a hassle, the roll only cost me one dollar... plus I don't want to spend £7.00 to process in switzerland.... I'm bitchy because the UK Walmart (ASDA) doesn't accept Kodachromes like in North America.

I must be on a roll, I'm due to pick up two rolls of 126 C41 films at ASDA too. I had to respool it in a changing bag onto 35mm carts they gave me. The films were half used from a boot sale treasure find Instamatics, with ten shots left on it I did of my kids. Give them credit, thanks for that, but I wish they could process my 8mm or Super 8 Negative in their processing machines.

Gianni

[audadvnc]

What a hassle, the roll only cost me one dollar... plus I don't want to spend £7.00 to process in switzerland....

Is this false economy? Would the processing be more worthwhile if you spent $100 on the roll?