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[amwf]

Noticed I said we because it's now clearly relevant that you're from this facility and, by reading the rest of the post, you clearly did faulty commercial by trying to look like a customers. It's really ashame from you. In this forum, we like Super8 and integrity.

Let me make it crystal clear Shralp does not work at our post facility.
Our shop is a owner operator facility owned and operated by myself
and my partner Jeff Tillotson. Shralp has been a client of mine for a few years. We just purchased a Super 8 gate for our Shadow telecine a couple of months ago. Shralp had a Super 8 project and came to me to get it transferred. The clips he posted were the results of some of our transfer. That is it no hidden agenda, he was just showing off some of his and my work. Many people have had nice things to say about the clips, but between the language gap and some of the skeptical tone this thread has taken a bizarre turn. There are no smoke and mirrors here, just a straight forward super 8 film transfer on a current telecine. As has been said by others lets move on.

[MovieStuff]

This is so unnecessary. Eric does NOT work for Flying Spot. He sent me some film months ago while looking for a telecine service for his project. I transferred it and, upon inspection, revealed some ways that I could improve the image. As a result, I shut down the original DV8 and started work on the new Sniper unit, which is lightyears better than the original DV8 unit. Eric was kind enough to provide me with a tape that had a split screen of my original DV8 transfer as well as a Rank transfer he had done at CinePost in Atlanta. My point in all this is that Eric went beyond what any potential client needed to do by providing me that tape, unrequested. We talked about certain issues to watch out for in Super 8 production as well as how to try and calculate exposures when shooting in snow, etc. In short, I have found Eric to be a very consciencious film maker that is determined to get the best he can get out of the super 8 medium; something that we all aspire to do but few of us have the resources or experience he has.

I find it sad that, upon presenting examples of work that we all would be proud of, transferred on a machine that I would love to own myself, that he should be confronted with such amatuerism and lack of humility.

Basstruc, you and I generally agree on most things but I truly feel you owe Eric an apology. He does not work for Flying Spot. I can understand your suspicions but he is not the wolf in sheep's clothing that you think he is. Eric may have responded in a terse manner but, clearly, you threw the first blow. I don't know that I would have responded much differently, myself, frankly. I have been known to blow a gasket now and then.

Eric, I think your footage looks great and, once I get the final touches on the Sniper unitl, I'll send you some new examples to look at. They probably won't match the work Flying Spot is producing for you but I'd love to have your opinion on the telecine work, none the less.

Roger

[shralp]

Roger,
I appreciate your comments, as always. Yes, I'd love to see some footage off of the Sniper when its available. Keep me posted.

I usually try to be mellow with stuff like this, its just the repeated history of posts on this thread from one individual that fired me up. Once I learned that it was someone that actually works in the business, the concept of professional ethics and integrity got thrown out the window as far as I was concerned. Language barrier or not, the tone of these posts was readily apparent. I too am tired of the constant back and forth on this topic. I'll try to post some high res. clips in the next week or so and that will be that. -Eric

(The Eric from portland, Oregon NOT Seattle, Washington, (home of Flying Spot), believe me matthieu? Jeez.....

[Basstruc]

I do have to apologize to that ? :

With that out of the way, I just have to say that the comments from Basstruc are really, really hilarious. Absurdly pathetic, but hilarious none the less. I see from your profile that you are an, uh, "Assistant Colorist" and "Assistant Telecine" in Paris. This makes your comments all the more comical, mainly because to have someone who supposedly is in the business make completely unprofessional, shoot from the hip remarks like "the shadow is a cheap version of the spirit" and in an international forum no less, shows really low class on your part. I probably shouldn't even reply to all the "my dad can beat up your dad" comments when comparing telecine machines but since you feel some need to be the alpha male telecine guru and piss in everyones sandbox I figured I would post a few thoughts.

Its funny that all this is coming from a guy who started out by saying that the clips posted on this forum were quite nice and of good quality, (this is of course right before he decided that there was some secret film world illuminati that decided to infiltrate the forum with 16mm clips that were masquerading as Super8).

All I can say is that if you really are in the business as you claim, then I guess you are destined to stay an "assistant" for eternity, (I like my coffee black, no sugar and grab me a croissant while your at it), because if you really think that a piece of gear costing hundreds of thousands of dollars is merely a "cheap version of a spirit", infer that it does sub-par work, I can only guess as to what your skills in front of a ANY telecine are. The bottom line is the images speak for themselves.

Thats pretty much all I need to say to Basstruc. Mainly because I prefer to talk with adults.....

You're fucked up or what ! Thinking you, roger, where talking to me about keeping the integrity of your products when Alex was saying shit... Shralp, fuck of ! Keep shooting your dog.
I'm out, thanks for those 3 years, bybye !
Matt

[Basstruc]

Just a last ad : I made myself clear about what I meant by cheap (=less expensive -> less feature) before this moron started insulting me, and play with my integrity. Sorry to say so Roger, I understand you fully on that point, but I'm pretty shure you would not have react like this if this half shit was not one of your clients. Just try to imagine this stupid post was talking about you....
Matt, gone

[Paul L.]

Don't worry about the idiocy on this thread. I'm interested in seeing what you have to show....

[paul]

Do they do Pal as well? Dunno if I missed that in this thread.

Great footage indeed!!

Paul

[MovieStuff]

Just a last ad : I made myself clear about what I meant by cheap (=less expensive -> less feature) before this moron started insulting me, and play with my integrity.

Yes, but long before you started this by posting your suspicions about Eric, I posted in a totally different thread that Eric did NOT work for Flying Spot. I figured this was old history and there was no reason to even bring it up. So your insinuations about him trying to advertise a telecine service were unfounded.

Sorry to say so Roger, I understand you fully on that point, but I'm pretty shure you would not have react like this if this half shit was not one of your clients.

But he ISN"T one of my clients and isn't likely to be since he's found a great place to telecine his footage locally at a great price. I defend him because you were simply out of line, Matt. You really shouldn't get in a snit about it. We've all gotten out of line and then we apologize and move on. As I say, I understand your suspicions but, really, it has been apparent for quite some time that Eric does not work for Flying Spot. Your only error was not remembering the previous thread where that point was clarified.

Roger

[Dave Hardy]

I am delighted to see Eric Rosen take the time to post to this forum. Anyone adding a Super 8 gate to thier flying spot scanner has to be highly commended. The quality an care he takes in performing this work shows in the examples posted.
His rates for a one light transfer are very economical. Shoot a gray scale scale & color bar chart on the beginning of each roll & you should get pro quality at a price that pro Superr 8 filmmakers can afford. Use manual exposure not automatic.

Now if only Forde lab would process Super 8 color neg. that could be delivered directly to Eric Rosen for transfer.

Dave Hardy
Cancouver B.C.

[MovieStuff]

Matt, in case you're still lurking, here is a link to the topic that clarified Eric's lack of association with Flying Spot:

http://www.8mm.filmshooting.com/scripts ... 25&start=0

In fact, I answered your question directly. I wrote:

"Anyway, I just wanted to point out the poster in question (Eric) is not related to the telecine service in Seattle. Eric is a serious film maker that has produced some remarkable S8 footage. He is as concerned about quality as any of us which is why he shared his find in Seattle with an (unfortunately) over suspicious and skeptical group, it would appear."

Frankly, I don't see what the confusion was or why it was necessary to muddy the waters with unfounded accusations.

Roger

[mathis]

matt, if you´re still listening:
i agree with you that shralps response was absolutely over the top. actually i didn´t like your know-it-all attitude either, but i feel shralps uncontrolled offence leaves a lot to be desired in terms of "adult" communication.

maybe this helps you staying here.
au revoir,
- mathis

[mattias]

actually i didn´t like your know-it-all attitude either

i do. i don't know about germany, but my girlfriend since seven years is french and this is the way many people in europe make conversation. you know you're living in a new world when the best golfer is black, the best rapper white and the french call the americans arrogant... :-)

(did i mention i saw radiohead and red hot chili peppers on mtv alternative nation last night) *lol*

/matt

[The Central Scrutinizer]

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[Giovanni]

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See you on the forum,
G.

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