New Super 8 cartridge - and Ektachrome 100D from Kodak?

[MIKI-814]

Answer to previous question: I stock 100D in R8 and DS8.

John S.

Then I guess your S stands for Schwind

[cubdukat]

My understanding is, when Kodak accepts this initial deal with Wittner, the product then is on the Kodak list and everybody can order it.

It certainly couldn't come too soon. Spectra seems to be dragging their heels. E100D's been listed as "coming soon" for the majority of the year. I wanna see "now available"!

[wado1942]

As to why they don't notch Tri-X on their own, and speed notch it at 160 from the beginning, I suspect it's the same idea-- that a little guaranteed overexposure on all cameras is better than the alternative of losing almost a full stop

That explains a lot. My first project I shot on super-8, I didn't have a light meter but I could swear that everything was being overexposed because I knew something about guessing exposure in daylight conditions. We wound up switching cameras with an older cheaper one and the rest of the movie was underexposed, thereby ruining any chance of a good image.

BTW, if I had a reversal stock that was only good for shooting outdoors, I'd rather have Velvia 50D. It's sharper and finer grained than Kodak's 100D

[Angus]

BTW, if I had a reversal stock that was only good for shooting outdoors, I'd rather have Velvia 50D. It's sharper and finer grained than Kodak's 100D

But how much longer will Velvia 50D be available?

We can pretty much guarantee Kodak 100D will be around for years, and it looks gorgeous.

Kodak's rationale for bringing out 64T may well have been that they only wanted one colour reversal film in super 8...and 64T allows for indoor and outdoor shooting.

[Will2]

BTW, if I had a reversal stock that was only good for shooting outdoors, I'd rather have Velvia 50D. It's sharper and finer grained than Kodak's 100D

Velvia does look good, I've shot about 10 rolls. I like the vibrant colors when projected.

But Ektachrome 100D works better for me in shadows, both on bright days with heavy shadows and cloudy days with more even light.

Plus, I'd rather have it directly from Kodak and have their quality control.

[Jim Carlile]

Fuji says Velvia 50 is back for good:

http://www.fujifilmusa.com/JSP/fuji/epa ... Velvia.jsp

So if availability was the only problem, it's still around.

What's the deal with Fuji-- first they revived Single 8, now Velvia!

[MovieStuff]

Plus, I'd rather have it directly from Kodak and have their quality control.

Stop kidding around. ;)

Roger

[Angus]

Fuji says Velvia 50 is back for good:

http://www.fujifilmusa.com/JSP/fuji/epa ... Velvia.jsp

So if availability was the only problem, it's still around.

What's the deal with Fuji-- first they revived Single 8, now Velvia!

I'd hazard two guesses.

1) Fuji cares about its smaller markets more than Kodak

2) Fuji is making more profit than Kodak and can afford to care more about what the little people want.

They may also recognise that word of mouth works well...we are all really pleased about the single 8 and velvia decisions regardless of whether we use those products...and we'll say positive things about Fuji and perhaps buy Fuji products instead of a competitors, our judgement being partially swayed by the "feel good" factor of a company that appears to care and listen.

[downix]

Fuji says Velvia 50 is back for good:

http://www.fujifilmusa.com/JSP/fuji/epa ... Velvia.jsp

So if availability was the only problem, it's still around.

What's the deal with Fuji-- first they revived Single 8, now Velvia!

I'd hazard two guesses.

1) Fuji cares about its smaller markets more than Kodak

2) Fuji is making more profit than Kodak and can afford to care more about what the little people want.

They may also recognise that word of mouth works well...we are all really pleased about the single 8 and velvia decisions regardless of whether we use those products...and we'll say positive things about Fuji and perhaps buy Fuji products instead of a competitors, our judgement being partially swayed by the "feel good" factor of a company that appears to care and listen.

Fuji is a japanese company of the old-school, much as Toyota, Honda and Canon. To them, profitability is not the #1 goal, the customer is the #1 goal, and from the customer will come the profits. A company that harms their customer deserves to go out of business is that mindset.

I sell digital cameras for a living. I regularly get the Fuji and Canon reps into my store, and rather than them walking up to the managers, they walk up to me, the sales rep, and ask their questions.

We had a new Fuji rep last year. He walked in, and asked me "how many Fuji cameras did you sell this week." "None" "Why not?" "I can't convince myself their value." "Well, you know their features. If you could change 1 thing on the camera to make it sellable, what would it be?" "Use an SD memory card. It's the standard, not supporting it makes the cameras look to be Gilette Razors, charging less for the camera so you can charge for for the memory later." Some months passed, then a box arrived with my name on it. Inside, a note from the Fuji rep saying that Fuji's R&D thinks they have a solution to my issue. And under the note, a trio of new F45d's for me to sell, with a logo on the side of the box "dual-slot: xD/SD". Since then I've sold over 2 dozen Fuji cameras, and tell my customers about the sales call I got that day. Now... to get them to make an S10 DSLR camera to agressively market to the sub-$1000 market.....

[Angus]

And becuase you have generally positive experiences with Fuji reps you will have a more positive veiw of the company and its products.

Same reason why I like Foma, they seem to give a damn...but then they are small enough to do so. Fuji is a large company and all too often the left hand knows not what the right hand is doing. Kodak comes to mind there...

[wado1942]

I lean towards Shure microphones for the same reason. I had a couple of 55SWs (a stage mic from the late 50s-early 60s) and shot Shure an E-mail asking about a couple of the basic specs. They looked up my address and mailed me the user manual (out of print since the early 60s might I remind you) along with a list of what microphones tend to be best for what applications and a letter telling me about where to get parts for my ancient mics. Now THAT'S customer service.

[Will2]

Plus, I'd rather have it directly from Kodak and have their quality control.

Stop kidding around. ;)

Roger

Guess I should have said, "In comparison to Pro8mm."

[Will2]

Fuji is a japanese company of the old-school, much as Toyota, Honda and Canon. To them, profitability is not the #1 goal, the customer is the #1 goal, and from the customer will come the profits.

What's funny is that I REALLY like my Kodak film rep. On the Motion Picture side I've dealt with some very helpful people even with tiny orders. They seem to care although an argument can be made that the bigger company doesn't seem to care as much as we'd like about film and especially Super 8.

I've had Kodak reps call me back a few days later after they found some Kodachrome 16mm and they knew I was looking for it. They've called me to check on shipments and make sure everything got there ok.

Guess with Fuji its more of a company wide thing, with Kodak its more about the individual helping you (or not.)

[downix]

Fuji is a japanese company of the old-school, much as Toyota, Honda and Canon. To them, profitability is not the #1 goal, the customer is the #1 goal, and from the customer will come the profits.

What's funny is that I REALLY like my Kodak film rep. On the Motion Picture side I've dealt with some very helpful people even with tiny orders. They seem to care although an argument can be made that the bigger company doesn't seem to care as much as we'd like about film and especially Super 8.

I've had Kodak reps call me back a few days later after they found some Kodachrome 16mm and they knew I was looking for it. They've called me to check on shipments and make sure everything got there ok.

Guess with Fuji its more of a company wide thing, with Kodak its more about the individual helping you (or not.)

I've had great kodak reps too, but only on the motion picture side of things. When dealing with Kodak's still film rep, or worse their digital camera rep, they're less than helpful. I still remember the digital cam rep going on and on about the V570 being wide-angle and zoom, but when we pointed out that the pictures were sub-par, he brushed us off as if we were foolish mortals to even question the wisdom of General Zod.

[wado1942]

The worst reps on the planet, 3M and Rickenbacker.