Fuji film in a Kodak cart = Longer load?

Post by **kjellpell** » Wed Apr 09, 2003 7:49 pm

If I remember correctly, I once read that the Kodachrome S8mm film is 0,12mm thick, and Fujichrome Single 8mm is 0,09mm thick.

Post by **Lucas Lightfeat** » Wed Apr 09, 2003 8:29 pm

kjellpell wrote:If I remember correctly, I once read that the Kodachrome S8mm film is 0,12mm thick, and Fujichrome Single 8mm is 0,09mm thick.

So if Fuji film is 3/4 of the thickness of Kodak, 50' of Fuji will fit will take up the space normally occupied by 37.5' of Kodak.

The remaining space, normally 12.5' of Kodak will take 16.666' of Fuji.

(It's the same as (50/3) X 4)

Meaning that in a 50' Kodak Super8 cartridge, you should technically be able to fit 66.6' of Fuji film. (extra 50 seconds at 24fps = 3mins, 20secs)

In a 200' cartridge, you could therefore fit 266.6' of Fuji. (extra 200 secs at 24fps = 13mins, 20 secs)

I may be wrong, but I've double checked it.... 8O

Lucas

Post by **David M. Leugers** » Thu Apr 10, 2003 5:09 pm

I think sometimes we have to take a step back and see just what it is we are saying. Here we are talking about trying to cram more Fuji film into a Kodak cartridge when some of the biggest threads on this website have been devoted to the problems with thin film stocks in Kodak cartridges! Are we glutons for punishment or what? 8) I'd like to see a movement towards roll film. If Fuji would make DS8mm available, then I think they'd find a niche market waiting. Still, it's nice to muse about possibilities and everyone would welcome longer filming from each cartridge. My two cents.

David M. Leugers

Post by **Carlos 8mm** » Thu Apr 10, 2003 5:42 pm

All We need is a new metal-pressure plate reloadable cartridge.
Not KodakÃ‚Â´s plastic pressure plate dismissable cartridges.

Carlos.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Apr 10, 2003 7:42 pm

I think it works like I thought: the capstan drive is managing the speed control of the camera friction, creating a tension between capstan and central sprocket. This way, the central sprocket can pull the fresh film with the correct speed. It probably will NOT work at framerates different to 18 and 24 fps, only at framerates supported by the capstan drive.
Pedro

Post by **S8 Booster** » Thu Apr 10, 2003 9:45 pm

Posted Paul Cottos translation.

Bigger:
ftp://ftp.filmshooting.com/upload/pictu ... n01ENG.jpg

R

Post by **guest from Japan** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 8:46 am

http://www.h4.dion.ne.jp/~s8mmeiga/page025.html
has been updated.

Basstruc not logged in · Thu Apr 17, 2003 12:16 am

SOB : Can you please translate the update, please ?

Roger: Ain't you working on the contrary ( super8 stocks in Fuji ZC1000 ) ? Would be fantastic to get my ZC1000 running with upcomming Vision2 500T !

Matt

Post by **S8 Booster** » Thu Apr 17, 2003 12:26 am

Quick Translate:

Used Altavista/Babelfish to translate it and reposted it in .pdf format.

ftp://ftp.filmshooting.com/upload/pictu ... alfish.pdf

R

Basstruc not logged in · Thu Apr 17, 2003 12:40 am

Oops, sorry S8B, I though it was you that had a japonese wife but in fact was Paul Cotto. I made the mistake because of your John & Yoko picture (hahaha, I find that dawn funny).
Thanks mate,
Matt

guest from Japan() · Post by **guest from Japan()** » Thu Apr 17, 2003 10:31 am

I am getting parts for this adapter from the guy of the website, next week.
When I have enough time to translate the webpage, I will post the English ver. of this page.

Post by **guest from Japan** » Sat Apr 19, 2003 10:31 am

http://www.h4.dion.ne.jp/~s8mmeiga/page025.html has been updated.
Now, He is making the adapter for Elmo 1012 S-XL and will report it on the website when it's done.

Post by **S8 Booster** » Sun Apr 20, 2003 11:29 pm

Nihonjin San.

Do I understand this correctly if I understand these Single8/super8 adapters are sold as do-it-your-self-kits? Parts supplied only?

The actual assembly has to be done by yourself and the price for the kit is about $80 = Ã‚Â¥?

R

Post by **S8 Booster** » Sun Apr 20, 2003 11:34 pm

kjellpell wrote:If I remember correctly, I once read that the Kodachrome S8mm film is 0,12mm thick, and Fujichrome Single 8mm is 0,09mm thick.

Measured a K40 with a micrometer and this processed film piece was exactly 0.14 mm thick. Unfortunately I have no Single8 to compare with.

R

Post by **guest from Japan** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 11:24 am

TO S8 Booster;

I think it is sold as DIY kits. You can kindly ask him to sell these parts. I don't know exactly how much these parts cost because I was the first person to post on his BBS and he gave me these parts for free.

I think there are 2 sets availble.
1.- basic parts set (5000 Yen/about US$41.70)
2.- all incl. set (13000 Yen/about US$108.30).

Exchange rate is US$1.00 = 120Yen.

Filmshooting

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