First examples from our Al Dente spaghetti western

[sooper8fan]

S8 Booster wrote:

it seems that you shoot in auto exposure?
if you didnt use auto exposure - can it be due to the transfer method?

didn't you read any of the other posts? Take a look at mine way back on the first page. :roll:

[S8 Booster]

no, i more or less jumped from page one until this. sorry if i missed your posts on the same.

[jukkasil]

jukka, your clip and frames looks very good and it would be interesting to see the whole film. looks very promising.

just a comment on exposure seen on the clip. it seems that you shoot in auto exposure? my experience with this cam and neg fim is that it comes out better if you fix the exposure - possibly at the highlight of a scene or whatever is most logical or correct for your composition and lock it there rather than let it go auto. i do this scene by scene.

the cams autosetting with reversal is fabolous but due to the wide latidude of the neg you dont really need to use it and in my view it looks better when locking it up taking full advantage of the films wide latitude.

if you didnt use auto exposure - can it be due to the transfer method?

This example clip was shot with automatic exposure, because my wife shot it, I was an actor and we had only two person at forest that time. Almost all shots have been shot in manual exposure mode.

We are trying to complete this movie for Tampere short film festival (http://www.tamperefilmfestival.fi), deadline is 31.12.2005, so I won't put it in net soon. Anyway sound track-project also means I had to compose totally new suitable (= Ennio Morricone-stylish) music for it.

[mathis]

Anyway sound track-project also means I had to compose totally new suitable (= Ennio Morricone-stylish) music for it.

I´m very curious! I liked what you did for the Timelapse film. I´m convinced that your music will make your Spaghetti western something special.

[jukkasil]

Anyway sound track-project also means I had to compose totally new suitable (= Ennio Morricone-stylish) music for it.

I´m very curious! I liked what you did for the Timelapse film. I´m convinced that your music will make your Spaghetti western something special.

I'm a big E.M fan and have composed that kind of songs before for my old Kivikyy-project, so let see what I'll manage to compose to this new film project.

[Lunar07]

ok, here goes: if somebody posts a clip aren't we supposed to give our opinions? few things piss me of as much as people complaining about people giving their opinion when more or less explicityly asked to do so.

/matt

Of course, that was my point! It sounded from your reply that you were addressing me, but I do not think so.

[Lunar07]

Ok, you can find that old topic about same thing, if you don't know anything about project before, just read it first:

viewtopic.php?t=10785&highlight=dente

Here are couple pics captured without color correction from dv-tape (developed and transfered by Andec). Camera was Canon 1014 XL-S.
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Maybe I am missing something since i do not know the plot or the story. But the character in the pictures seems to be so 'fresh' - almost a baby face for a spaghetti western. Faces are usually haggard with deep lines - one can give examples of the likes of Marvin to Eastwood. The character in the picture looks like out of an ad from the American Dairy Association - Drink Milk; it does you good.
I am separating here the technical aspect of how the picture looks like and the technical aspect of casting. A good example of the latter is the movie 'The Man who Shot Liberty Valance.' Wayne Vs. Stewart and how the face itself is a part and parcel of the plot itself and how this defines our expectations of the behaviour of the character.
of course i am still a fan of your work

[Lunar07]

Thats for sure ! Personally I welcome opinions, especially constructive criticism. It's a great way to improve and learn what we do.

Hi Taki -
Good to see you are posting here. We have dealt with one another before although you'll not recognize me with my name here.
I checked your clips - I LOVE them. Beautiful poetic style with vision. Keep up the good work. I hope the Schneider 25mm RX lens is working fine for you Sorry I never answered your email before but I had a problem with the power supply on my PC which I have not fixed it yet. Anyway, good to see here and I hope we see more posts from you.

[jukkasil]

Maybe I am missing something ...

Absolutely you are missing the point, because you haven't seen the film!
I don't want to spoil more about the story, you'll see the final version later.

Like I already told, this isn't a real spaghetti western, only mixing s.w incfluences to couple other things.
Baby faces? Do you watched that dv-file and meant that guy (me) or that guy with white jacket? Have to say that to my wife!

[taki]

Thanks Lunar 7, I used the 25mm a lot and really wide open, lets see if I get that nice soft flair I like. Saving up for a preset because opening up to focus is a pain. Say, do you know how much you should open up on a bolex to adjust for the prisim and the 130 degree shutter. I read 2/3's of a stop. ??

[jukkasil]

OK guys, here is a little teaser of short film in mpg1-format:

http://www.sorb-i-tol.com/AL_DENTE_SILENT_TEASER.MPG

[GiuseppeT]

Great! I can't wait to see the short!
Regards
Giuseppe Tozza

[sooper8fan]

jukkasil wrote:

OK guys, here is a little teaser of short film in mpg1-format:

wow, that's quite a piss you took there!
It looks awesome!! I may not be as "seasoned" as some others on the forum here, but I'd say it looks more like 16mm instead of Super8, but you used ALL Vision2 stock, correct? It's very clean....I don't really notice many specks or dust or anything. I'm anxious to see it when it's done.

Another question for you, jukkasil:
when you were out in those woods, did you script what you wanted to do in those precise locations, or did you simply wander around and say "hmm, i think this looks like a good spot for me to take a leak...honey, roll camera" or "this is a good rock for me to stand on". Basically, did you plan the action for those locations or just come up with stuff on-the-fly? Great work so far...keep it up.

[Evan Kubota]

Nice work - a few questions, though.

- what was on the ground in the shot where the piss hits the dirt? It looked like either some moss that was blown in a fast wind, or a swarm of ants/termites...

- what's in the coffin?

One or two of the shots looked like they were framed too close for that aspect ratio (2.35:1?)... other than that, excellent.

[etimh]

what's in the coffin?

I thought it was a guitar case. :?

Tim