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S8 Booster wrote:Yeah, results becoming more like this:
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Giving the tool needed to do just about anything creating the "best" film look/imagery ever seen
One of my jobs a few years back was writing software to process MRI data. I was required to convert the data slices into 3D models for use in 3D animation software. But anyway something similar to MRI is what I was talking about but using laser light rather than magnetic fields. The magnetic fields of MRI would have no affect on film (if I understand MRI correctly).

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No MRI will not work the object structure has to be fluid. My samples are for visualiation only. Laser or electron microscoping are alternatives laser being the best and easiest alternative i guess.

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Yeah - it's the water molecules in the body which emit a photon when magneticially manipulated by the MRI. Film is somewhat lacking in this department ...

But yes - the general conceptual idea is the same. And you would use algorithms very similar. Fourier Transforms in particular.

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if a suitable scanning/recording method was established it seems like the data processing could be in reach :)

just scanning through methods which one could nick some ideas from ...
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The idea is fine. Colour TV images have been resurrected out of monochrome copies of the original colour recording by using a principle to that proposed.

The separate colour information must be in the film so it is probably possible to get it out if it is processed as monochrome.

The idea has merit, but the details, well i will leave that to someone else to sort out.
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The idea has merit, but the details, well i will leave that to someone else to sort out.
The devil is in the details.

A BW film copy of colour video, is a much easier problem to solve. The BW film copy will hold the information for each component of the RGB video in a separate xy location of the film image. The phosphors of the original colour video display are xy separate - so will reproduce as xy separate in the copy.

But in BW processed colour film the information embodying the colour components are not xy separate, so xy reproduction won't work. They are, however, z separate.

And so something similar to the z processing ideas of MRI/Holography are required.
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The idea of processing kodachrome as a b/w negative seems uneconomical as you can purchase b/w negative film or a reversal film in black and white already. Is there any difference in kodachrome as a b/w negative than an actual b/w negative? If the film is already exposed then maybe as a processing alternative but again for unexposed stock, it doesn't make sense.
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Just more thoughts...if the 3 layers do have a individual signature it may/ight be possible to scan for a spesific color temparature grade if a suitable scan tool exists.

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