My new transfer units: update

[VideoFred]

so while good signal processing certainly is better than a bad one, the only option for true extended range really is to get a camera with a good chip.

Something like this?

http://www.hitachi-ke-eu.com/content/in ... =1_3_1_4_2


I need a sponsor... urgent :lol:
Fred.

[christoph]

Something like this?

yeah, that should do nicely.. :p

cant see any info about the dynamic range though and if i were to spend that amount of money i'd prolly look for a 2/3" or 1" CCD.

++ christoph ++

[Patrick]

"while good signal processing certainly is better than a bad one, the only option for true extended range really is to get a camera with a good chip.
failing that (as they are damn expensive) you might try variable backlight or multi-captures."

Hmmm.....I guess I should hide my 1/2 in. 3CCD 750 line camera in shame then.

[christoph]

Hmmm.....I guess I should hide my 1/2 in. 3CCD 750 line camera in shame then.

not sure if you're being ironic here, but anyway...
obviously you can get quite decent transfers with a midrange PAL/NTSC camera, as most people wont notice some lost shadow detail and/or clipping in the highlights. that's why workprinters are an excellent choice for diy transfers. just dont expect it to perform miracles.

++ christoph ++

[VideoFred]

Hmmm.....I guess I should hide my 1/2 in. 3CCD 750 line camera in shame then.

Certainly not!

This Sony cam is what I am looking for myself.
Even I show my -not suitable machine cam- results :lol:
Do you have a workable setup at this moment?

I am working on a simple but interesting test for all us film transfer freaks:
I have some K40 footage that is perfect for dynamic range tests:

White dressed old ladys on the foreground
Black forest on the background.
Very sharp well exposed footage.
Both the forest and the ladys are very well captured on the original.

With my cam, the forest is good, or the ladys are good.
No way to get both good with one exposure.

The idea is: I would multi-capture a few frames, and send some frames from the same footage/scene to others who are asking for it. (and forcing some who are not asking for it )

I was thinking of: Christoph, Thomas, Roger(Sniper!) Sparky, Mitch, Andreas, Paul, Kent (flashscan!!) and every one else who is asking for it. Forgive me if I forget someone.

Then I would start a thread with the results. Then we all would have a pretty good idea what digital cams are good or better for DIY filmtransfer use.

Fred.

[Uppsala BildTeknik]

Cool idea videofred!

And yesss, here I am, back from the dead! (I haven´t posted here in a loooooong time because I couldn´t log in, and I couldn´t get a new password for some weird reason... But now you guys will have to put up with me again. 8) )

There has been several threads that I wanted to comment, but couldn´t!
So frustrating! :o :roll:

EDIT: Me and my smileys. ;) :lol:

[christoph]

The idea is: I would multi-capture a few frames, and send some frames from the same footage/scene to others who are asking for it. (and forcing some who are not asking for it :P )

count me in.. :)
++ c.

[Patrick]

"workprinters are an excellent choice for diy transfers. just dont expect it to perform miracles."

Agreed. Contrast is one of the major obstacles facing all telecine operators. If I can reduce it to a certain extent, whether that be by camera functions, multi-exposure scanning or other means, I will be satisfied.

"This Sony cam is what I am looking for myself."

Good luck on your quest. It took me many months to obtain a PAL camera with these specifications at the right price.

"Do you have a workable setup at this moment?"

My telecine set up has been a work in progress for a while. Though by good fortune, I have managed to aquire some other significant pieces of equipment quite recently - again at the right price. So it looks like it shouldn't be too far away before I get something up and running.

"White dressed old ladys on the foreground
Black forest on the background."

This sounds like one of the most challenging telecine situations known to humankind. It will be very interesting to see what everybody has done with these images.

[VideoFred]

And yesss, here I am, back from the dead! EDIT: Me and my smileys. ;) :lol:

Welcome back, Kent!
What do you feed your smileys, they are in very good shape :lol:

Fred.

[Uppsala BildTeknik]

What do you feed your smileys, they are in very good shape :lol:

Fred.

I feed them with a lot of love.
And some 8mm film too, preferrably some old footage with a bad color-tint that I can correct. Makes me feel good to get them colors good again.

[VideoFred]

"White dressed old ladys on the foreground
Black forest on the background."

This sounds like one of the most challenging telecine situations known to humankind. It will be very interesting to see what everybody has done with these images.

Haha! Yes, well... these old aunts are very neutral, ideal for a test.
I do have some nice 'babes' too, but these will get all the attention, not the test
I do not want a testosteron test

Patrick, can I include you too for the test?
This Sony 3CCD is a wonderful camera!

Fred.

[Uppsala BildTeknik]

Include the babes too... 8)

[VideoFred]

Include the babes too... 8)

Testosteron 8)

Fred.

[Patrick]

"Patrick, can I include you too for the test?"

Sure, when I have all my equipment assembled and up and running. Though I believe it's going to take me some time to master the difficulties of handling contrast.

"This Sony 3CCD is a wonderful camera!"
I'm not sure if this is going to be practical in this application but I'm going to do tests with the DXC-950 in frame integration mode, rather than the usual field integration, to squeeze even more resolution out of the camera.

I look forward to the babes footage too!