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mattias wrote: a good video camera and that other stuff costs as much as hours of hours of time in a professional bay,
Yup, your´re right. But just like Roger, some people starts to offer Trasfer Services with WorkPrinter or CineMate in the Web.
mattias wrote: ...and you still won't get anywhere near the shadow detail and color depth that you get from something as obsolete as a mkIII. i'm really impressed by our host's, jukka's and roger's results but they do suffer in thoese areas imho.
It´s depends of the video camera that you will use to make the transfer.
I was lucky to get a 3 CCD DVC-Pro Panasonic AJD-400, with up to 800 lines of horizontal resution, exceptional exposure latitude range, and excellent signal–noise ratio.
Also I make some transfers with a 3CCD Mini DV camera,(Sony VX-2000) and the results were very different (more noisy, limited latitude exposure and less sharper).
K-40 is a critical stock for video transfers due its limited exposure range, unlike negative stock.

Of course, a new generation of Profesional trasnfers, Rank or anothers, is the ideal option.

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Roy,

Which video transfer did you use for this footage? (Homemade transer or proffesional transfer?) And what´s the video format (MINI DV, VHS, etc.?)
I can see in the pics that you show here some type of chromatic aberration (I think that is this). Possibly the projector used for this transfer haven´t a high quality projetion lens.

Just an observation.

Carlos.
I had a local company do the transfer. They used a Elmo GS1200 with a buhl multiplexer and a 3 chip video camera. I recorded directly to Dig 8 and firewired into my computer video editing program, Ulead Media Studio Pro 6. I pulled the stills off the avi file using the capture software. Having said all that I was not overly impressed with the video transfer. Who knows when they cleaned there lens last. I don't do a lot of transfers because most of my projects are for projection only, however I am getting a DVD burner soon and will want better transfers so I should start saving for a Workprinter.
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The new génération of pro transfert exist already, of course. They're called Thomson SPIRIT, Cintel C-Reality, ITK Millenium, ect... & are SD, HD & 2K compatible. Some got an optional Super8 Gate : the Spirit, The Millenium & the old Oxberry Scanner ( 3K transfer ), but no Facilities want to be equipped with super8. & I do agree with them, when you choose super8 for shooting, would you agree to pay 1000€ per hour of service to transfer it ? Of course not.
Matthias is right, a well done pro transfer will ever be better than a film chain or an workprinter transfer, even on an old Rank mkIII ( sorry Roger, have to be honest ). Those 2 products/services are not comparable.
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Oops, a little addiction : ITK Millenium is also 3K & 4K compatible
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Oops, agin ! Seams that Super8 is not an option on ITK Millenium, it's standart included !!! Ask to a Facility ITK equipped !
Here is the list :
http://www.cintel.co.uk/miluserlist.htm
Watch for prices, but this monster should allow you to do fantastic transfer from SD to 4K

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Hi all!

I just posted some new stills from some recent transfers. They can be viewed here:

http://www.smalfilm.no/eksempler.html

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mattias wrote:
a good video camera and that other stuff costs as much as hours of hours of time in a professional bay, and you still won't get anywhere near the shadow detail and color depth that you get from something as obsolete as a mkIII. i'm really impressed by our host's, jukka's and roger's results but they do suffer in thoese areas imho.

/matt
Matt, do you have any experience with this transfer house in Stockholm on S8?

Frithioff Stockholm

Supposed to have a ITK Millenium according to the list.
http://www.cintel.co.uk/miluserlist.htm

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S8 Booster wrote: Matt, do you have any experience with this transfer house in Stockholm on S8?
i've worked on a commercial that they transferred from 16, and it looked awesome, and they also do lots of effects scanning for features. i don't believe they do super-8 though, but i guess they could rent a gate if needed...

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mattias wrote:
S8 Booster wrote: Matt, do you have any experience with this transfer house in Stockholm on S8?
i've worked on a commercial that they transferred from 16, and it looked awesome, and they also do lots of effects scanning for features. i don't believe they do super-8 though, but i guess they could rent a gate if needed...

/matt
I got the impression from Basstruc/Matt that it was a standard feature on this unit, if I got him right?
Basstruc wrote:Oops, agin ! Seams that Super8 is not an option on ITK Millenium,

it's standart included !!!

Ask to a Facility ITK equipped !
Here is the list :
http://www.cintel.co.uk/miluserlist.htm
Watch for prices, but this monster should allow you to do fantastic transfer from SD to 4K

Matt
Can you verify this Basstruc?


Found their address on the web to so it may be possible to contact them to check it out.
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Not my best frames or even tried to do any photographic effeorts with the following images. However, they may be of some interest as I just got some film transfered by Andreas. The frames shown here are from the Agfa Moviechrome 40 and it came out extremely good compared with the original save for the shadows that probably is a typical film->DV problem. Although a little grainer than the K40 it has somewhat lower contrast that seemed to come out better than the K40. Extremely satisfied with the transfer quality.

The 2 frames are from a "feature" fun film a friend and I made in 1987. This is from a actual shooting sceene. If you look at the 2. pict you can see the cartridge is automatically ejected. The 2 frames are form a tape splice so it may not be the best quality to show up. Splice is visual on the left.

For those interested; this is a 6 shot Benelli that has a firing ratio of almost 6:1 compared to the sluggish lever action dinosauruses seen on "all" US movies.

For reference only 2 cartriges are allowed in the magazine for hunting in Norway though.

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Mathias : Ok, m8, so you don't read my posts ? Nevermind, I don't read yours nether :)

S8 Booster : As there no explicit informations either on websites & books I own, the best solution would be to give a call to those facilities. But as there no ITK Milleniums in france, would be better if one of you could call, & ask. Price too.

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TNX Basstruc.

Hmm...... this guy is hunting for his manic lawn mover only I think?
No conflict.. or ist? Those who liveth for see.....

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Hey Super 8 Booster - You been reading Shakespeare lately?
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Lucas Lightfeat wrote:Hey Super 8 Booster - You been reading Shakespeare lately?
Sorry can not claim so.
Rather you are understanding Norwegian well?

" Den som lever få(o)r se."

However I have always thought that there are some similarities between Shakespeare and a screwed up mix between Norwegian and English.

Was Shakespeare only a Norwegian who pulled some English legs?
Dat we shalt never to know? :?

On the other side, not many knows that York is originated form the Viking Name of Jorvik whereas The Big Apple´s real name is New Jorvik, The Viking Village Bay! :wink:

Actually I did some translation of parts of Shakespeare together with with my daughter (She is studying drama/acting) a few months ago and I really enjoyed the most weird parts. However I found the lingual part easy and sort of familiar while the real stuff seemed heavy.

Even if this stuff is beyond my capacity I really wonder if it is really simple or extremely complex. I am not to give the answer.

Have you been into this in some way?

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Basstruc wrote:Mathias : Ok, m8, so you don't read my posts ?
i do. i never said *their machine* didn't handle super8. just that *they* don't, which i still don't think they do.

/matt
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