BUMP: Timelapse Project

Post by **FilmIs4Ever** » Sat Jan 22, 2005 11:03 pm

I'd like to reiterate, Andreas, that I still owe you money for the second timelapse project because I forgot to put my money order in with my film. I need to pay you for the transfer, return shipping, and also for a video tape for the final project. Although can you get NTSC video tape?

Regards.
~Karl Borowski

Post by **paul** » Sat Jan 22, 2005 11:47 pm

Jee man! I have seen the 2003 project and it was really great, some footage was really impressive. And Philip Glass did a good job on the soundtrack!

I am looking forward to the 2004 project, is that one allmost finished as well?

Paul

Post by **Ralph S** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 6:43 am

I think it looks great. I'm excited to see it finished. So that was philip glass?
my stuff had a weird magenta cast in the transfer. The sky and clouds look pink. I know Andreas didn't do a color correction for everyone's films, but some colors are off. Will someone do some color correction for the scenes that need it?

YouTube · Post by **Andreas Wideroe** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 11:32 am

What you saw was a workprint, Ralph. The final version is colour corrected.

Btw: Who is Philip Glass?

Post by **christoph** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 12:00 pm

awand wrote:Btw: Who is Philip Glass?

the guy who did the music for Koyaanisqatsi (funny enough i had to think of that movie too when i saw the preview)

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001275/

++ christoph ++

Post by **jukkasil** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 1:20 pm

paul wrote:Jee man! I have seen the 2003 project and it was really great, some footage was really impressive. And Philip Glass did a good job on the soundtrack!
Paul

Nice joke Paul!

OK, I know Philip and some of his music, but if you mean these soundscapes at the beginning of that movie, of course I did them by myself with my synths (basically with analog module synth-model from my Pulsar). These ones are composed only for this project, these normal songs (part of them) you'll hear I have composed for my band Sorb-i-tol. Anyway I have played all instruments myself, vocals by Lotta Rytkonen. More music from Sorb-I-Tol you can listen from this site:

http://www.mikseri.net/sorb-i-tol

(That site is written in Finnish, just click the songs link to load them)

EDIT: that mikseri.net link seems to be right now totally dead (they have about 1000 members online all time, so sometimes you cannot open it, too much traffic).

Post by **mathis** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 1:21 pm

Oh, wow. I quite enjoyed the music.

Post by **jukkasil** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 1:58 pm

mathis wrote:Oh, wow. I quite enjoyed the music.

Thanks!

Post by **paul** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 3:30 pm

OK, I know Philip and some of his music, but if you mean these soundscapes at the beginning of that movie, of course I did them by myself with my synths (basically with analog module synth-model from my Pulsar).

I liked the soundtrack a lot, but I think that was obvious from my last comment.

Paul

Post by **mattias** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 6:33 pm

jukkasil wrote:I have composed for my band Sorb-i-tol.

i'm curious, are the songs registered with ncb (nordic copyright bureau) or similar? in that case i'm sure you know there's a fee for every copy being made, even if you as the author give your permission.

/matt

Post by **jukkasil** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 7:16 pm

mattias wrote:
jukkasil wrote:I have composed for my band Sorb-i-tol.
i'm curious, are the songs registered with ncb (nordic copyright bureau) or similar? in that case i'm sure you know there's a fee for every copy being made, even if you as the author give your permission.

/matt

We have in Finland same kind of thing called Teosto (I belive, it's member of ncb), but I'm not their member, so these songs aren't registered. If i'd be a member of Teosto, every time I want to use my own music for example in my short films, I need to pay them 50-100 euro to use it.

Ok, I'd get my money back later, but for amateur like me it would be pain in ass. I have made my decision over 15 years ago not to join Teosto and it has been good decision, even I have lost couple bucks, but I have totally freedom to control my own doings.

All songs in time lapse project is unregistered stuff. Also if someone of you want to use my music in your short film (or want to me compose new one), just send message to me to discuss that case more.

Post by **mattias** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 11:15 pm

jukkasil wrote:every time I want to use my own music for example in my short films, I need to pay them 50-100 euro to use it.

are you sure about that? ncb changed the rules a few years ago, at least in sweden, so that you can negotiate whatever fee you like (for example zero) with the author and then just send them your contract. you still have to pay for every copy you make though, there's no way around that.

/matt

Post by **jukkasil** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 6:18 am

mattias wrote:
jukkasil wrote:every time I want to use my own music for example in my short films, I need to pay them 50-100 euro to use it.
are you sure about that? ncb changed the rules a few years ago, at least in sweden, so that you can negotiate whatever fee you like (for example zero) with the author and then just send them your contract. you still have to pay for every copy you make though, there's no way around that.

/matt

Unfortunately with our national organisation (= Teosto), this is the real situtiation here also in year 2005. We have a lot of discussion about that case here in Finland especially between amateur music makers and I really hope Teosto will change their rules soon more to normal EU-style (nowadays their rules are more like from 1970 Finland). For good selling artists is't a good thing, but not for others. Their policy really sucks, they want fees from local radiostations and then they decided they'll also charge same fees from taxi drivers, who plays radio channels in their cars!
Finnish parliament fortunately stopped this doublecharge.

Post by **Uppsala BildTeknik** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 8:42 am

they decided they'll also charge same fees from taxi drivers, who plays radio channels in their cars!

Sounds like they have the same kind of greedy mentality that I have seen about music everywhere.
Bastards! :evil:

Post by **mattias** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:06 pm

jukkasil wrote:charge same fees from taxi drivers, who plays radio channels in their cars!

that is of course ridiculous, but what if the same drivers played cd's in their cars? in my opinion they should need a license for that since they're using it to create an atmosphere that they're selling to someone. stores and cafÃƒÂ©s have to pay, so why not cab drivers?

/matt