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[FILM-THURSO]

Hey what a cool thing- Someone who wants to make movies instead of just talk about making movies.
Yeah sure the techy stuff is interesting (and essential) but we aught to lighten up these pages with some idle chat and merry banter.
Personally I show my film in a nightclub which used to be a cinema but then as I am active within an arts company that's no mean feat really. I use an Elmo GS1200 and project to a 15ft CinemaScope screen.
I have projected movies onto the back wall of my mom's house as well. I have an extract from a film called "Vampire Circus" and I had to cover the lady's breasts when they appeared on the wall. 8O

[fritzcarraldo]

If you project your films over hollywood films, it might mean that you're frustrated by not having your own film on the screen.

It looks perfectly clear that you wanted to be there instead of them, i don't see other reason than that.

Many people started their own war against the "big system" the most enraged ended up belonging there, it's rare to see anyone that didn't, i would even say impossible.

I prefer to shoot my films and project them in small places.

I don't care about hollywood, it doens't mean nothing to me, and i don't have any intention in fighting them.

I prefer to choose better enemies, most of the time i choose myself.

regards

[marc]

Rethinking this a bit. I suppose this is a prank or something like the april fools day. But it is not april.

The broken english is part of the prank? While you are supposedly in the UK one might expect proper English.

there are a lot of Indians( and other nationalities) in England. Some speak English with an English accent and proper grammer, while others speak with an Indian( or other nationality) accent with grammer that is not so proper. Just like in the U.S.

[fritzcarraldo]

And besides that, what's the problem about the people in this forum talking mainly about technical questions?

In film-making there isn't many other aspects to talk about.

The rest is filming.

You couldn't expect talking about artistic conversations here would you?

Keep the spiritual aspects for a spiritual environment.

But there are many people searching for the best ways to exhibit themselves, projecting on a hollywood cinema, posting stuff on internet forum that they suppose that could shock everyone.

Try harder, me and some people here haven't been surprised by nothing you said.

[Old Uncle Barry]

Best thing is to ignore posts like the original thread and they may go away...................Bugger it!-just broken my own advice.Hey Ho.

[ninjamoon]

All I care about is my film. My film will never be screened in the cinema.
I work very hard. I do scratch film, dye film, I make odd narrative. I love francis bacon. mark rothko. rothkos painting like the cinema screen.
i shoot negaitive film , which is kodak and pro8. i film the negative onto 16mm film that is reversed and then i make print. to long and boring like this post but its very good effect.
I don't care anyway.
ninja

[mattias]

If it were true it would be somewhat like graffiti. Damage community or other people's property by bringing on nonsense illustrations. 99% of the occasions with absence of visual talent.

stop it, you're only exposing your complete lack of understanding of street culture and the arts, while placing yourself in a group of people where i promise you don't want to belong.

(unless you made a mistake and meant advertising billboards but slipped and wrote graffiti? there's something that's taking over the public space in a completely un-artful way without any of us asking for it. did you know that here in stockholm a company wanted to buy all the ad space in the subway to let graffiti artists paint on them and it wasn't allowed? even *capitalism* isn't democratic anymore, and while i understand that freedom isn't something you're given anymore, if you can't even buy it how can you get it if you don't steal? it freaks me out)

/matt

[pelluet]

Speaking of projecting cine in unusual places [as I think we were earlier in the thread], every year we try to do a themed garden party and show a film on a big screen at the bottom of the garden, some times on super 8 and sometimes on 16mm. One year we showed Barbarella on 16mm and due to problems with making the home made [out of a photographic paper roll back drop] screen stable it fell down :roll: , we then carried on projecting the movie on to the back wall of the Nursing home that is at the bottom of our garden that had conveniently been painted white.

Managed to get a mamouth, though slightly dull image over the windows and everything as a consequence of which at one point one of Jane Fondas nipples was projected through a window and on to the back wall of a patients badroom. Must have seemed quite surreal for them 8O .

Mike

ps. If projecting package movies is your thing it's also worth checking this site out; http://8mmforum.film-tech.com/ though that has also been critisised for becoming a bit techy recently, doesn't bother me, I like the techy stuff

[ninjamoon]

restrictions are closing in. soon they will bring back the draft in the U.S.
Where is freedom going. if I film without tripod in canary wharf I'm okay. with my tripod and i have to run. security guards eat my dust.
ninja :?

[mattias]

have you guys seen the french short "le principe du canapé"? it features a very cool super 8 projection sequence. the film is really good too. it's been at festivals all over the place.

/matt

[aj]

stop it, you're only exposing your complete lack of understanding of street culture and the arts, while placing yourself in a group of people where i promise you don't want to belong.

You are overrating streetculture. There is hardly any culture in it. Mostly it is replicating behaviour from television or friends. Hanging out and do nothing. And when people are bored/drunk/high misbehaviour develops. That is why citizens in a city do not appreciate it at all.

Nobody likes the atmosphere on subway/trainstation or streets which are not kept clean. Or where streetculture is flourishing. This is where people expect to be molested or get robbed.

It is a misunderstandig to think of graffiti as art. There are very very Keith Harings out there. It is most name tagging and painting things looking like things seen somewhere else. I.e. copying and that is why it so monotone and BORING when you watch it from a train or car.

even *capitalism* isn't democratic anymore, and while i understand that freedom isn't something you're given anymore, if you can't even buy it how can you get it if you don't steal? it freaks me out)

If it is not given and you cannot buy then you cannot have it. That is easy to understand. Freedom is mostly sought for thoughts and choices in life. There is no fundamental right to freedom to wreck other peoples property or use it at will or such.

In general your response seems like a 1970-ish programmed social-academic-art-school opinion. Which is quite out of date and proven unbearable to live in. Check how bearable life was then in Manhattan and other dense metropolitan areas. There was plenty of streetculture then.

Damaging other people's property or ruining their evening out for that matter for self proclaimed artistic cultural reason is anti-social.

I have no need for further discussion.

[aj]

restrictions are closing in. soon they will bring back the draft in the U.S.
Where is freedom going. if I film without tripod in canary wharf I'm okay. with my tripod and i have to run. security guards eat my dust.
ninja :?

If it were true. They are in the US and you are supposedly in UK. It is a misunderstanding to expect US regulation to extend unto UK citizens.

Maybe they were chasing you because they were in the audience when you were exposing your art. I.e. you spoiled their evening. Did you take off the cellotape otherwise it was a give away. :idea:

[ninjamoon]

i do live in the uk. but i read website conspiracys and believe it all.
if someone ruined my film i would be angry. but i have only done this a few times.
i get bored with this anyway. art film is mostly shit. my next film will be a narrative. i will tell you 'aj' about it. and what happens in the US drifts across the sea. we live on a ball. what happens anywhere ripples through. ninja
:o don't be dumb. and godzilla credits don't matter to anyone. and the movies shit like thunderbirds will be.

[espo]

personally, I'd be pretty impressed if I saw someone illegally projecting their films in a cinema. it's far more interesting to see someone's artwork than another polished, corporate-formula film. you never know, it might add some depth to godzilla. as far as I am concerned, the more people creating film and thinking for themselves, the better.

i do not accept the argument that it spoils people's evenings out to engage in this kind of activity, i suspect it would make them think and question far more than the average hollywood film. this is exactly the sort of thing which should be encouraged.

if anyone is interested in a rather more broad-minded approach to graffiti, read the first chapter of lights out for the territory by iain sinclair, it is superb. i wish there were more guerrilla filmmakers around.

keep up the good work.

ed

[aj]

i do not accept the argument that it spoils people's evenings out to engage in this kind of activity, i suspect it would make them think and question far more than the average hollywood film. this is exactly the sort of thing which should be encouraged.

You think you are entitled or great enough a mind to force other people who are entertaining themselves somewhere into thinking something you want them to think. What they are doing is not right and you know what people should do? That is very scary and a anachronism. Or, that is fascism and what dictators do to their people. Nobody wants that or approves of that.

Use your own property and goods for your unrequested (and likely unwanted) art