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but the rest seemed only one peg up from the imagination of a child or teenager. They were as intellectually bland as a soap opera or MTV insert.
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Ouch! but yes, this is probably true for the majority of short films and most features as well. I mean, does the world really need another horror/slasher/gangster film?? It's so depressing to read an interview with some young director waxing lyrical on the new and imaginative ways he's thought up to kill a character with a spade (then again some ofmy own short scripts just leapt to mind). But back to shorts; why do people make short films at all? For the most part I think the exploration of ideas would come very low down on the priority list. The obvious one is 'I want to make a feature but can't spare the minimum £100,000 (yes, we've all heard about the feature shot for 40 quid, but come on!)' - so shooting a short is the next best way to flex those creative urges - but that only leads us to 'why make a feature?' 'Because it's cool!' you cry (well maybe not you, but millions would). Yes, it is 'cool' - for my part there is no more fun to be had than when you're working on a film set (as I wrote that, a couple of other things occured to me but this isn't the forum to share them) - and maybe that's reason enough. But again, can't afford to make a feature! So make a short, someone will see it and give you loooots of money to make a feature...maybe...but probably not...UNLESS...your short goes on to be selected into lots of festivals, wins BAFTAS/OSCARS/GOLDEN WREATHS OF VARIOUS ORIGIN! then yes, you're in with a chance...as long as you have that feature script ready roll (wow, I'm rambling)...
What I wanted to say was 'exploring your thematic interests' is an excellent reason to make a film any length (and my prefered reason to see one) and you should do more because your talent with film is obvious. Stepping up (or sideways) to a more traditional narritive structure using actors (gasp!) would be a good stretch of your skills. And maybe think of using genre to sneak in a few ideas while the audience isn't looking. I made a short last year because having spent 20 years on sets I wanted to hold the reins for once. My approach was 1,2,3 - one location, two actors, no more than three minutes (restrictions are good - that's why I like 'global cities' - and shooting on s16 means expense!) It's not amazing, and it's certainly not philosophical in nature - I like to think of it as Ian MacEwan meets John Fowles 'The Collector' - but I got it made and learnt from it and it's on to the next one (hmmm...maybe a comedy...with a twist...haven't seen THAT before...)

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Congratulations on your festival screening, Nathan. I would not worry too much about audience reception. I listened to an interview with Steven Soderberg on the radio the other day and he said something that stuck with me. He was asked about audience expectations and how he negotiates such expectations. His respose was: " I make films that people like me want to see." For me this was something of a revalation in the obvious. Of course, be true to your own vision. Make it what you want to see - make it what you want it to be. Work in themes that matter to you.

comradejones wrote: What I wanted to say was 'exploring your thematic interests' is an excellent reason to make a film any length
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Yes! I personally love the short form, but there are few short-form films that connect with me. The problem with features is simply that they are often too long.....and getting longer!

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comradejones wrote:[ Stepping up (or sideways) to a more traditional narritive structure using actors (gasp!) would be a good stretch of your skills. And maybe think of using genre to sneak in a few ideas while the audience isn't looking.
hi Matt - Yes, this is exactly my intention, but at the same time I do not want to overburden the drama with ideology and inventive parallels, I am hoping they will come through the material naturally.

It is definitely stepping up. The film I am imagining will require 4 actors, 2 horses, a DOP, camera assistant, 2 or 3 helpers and myself which is quite a crowd. I have been adverse to acted, narrative pieces since my first ever film effort, which was so terrible that it scared me off for a long while from that kind of filmmaking. However, I feel ready to step up to it now.

I am still weighing the pros and cons of HD vs S16, although in the end it may just be a question of economics. If I get funding then S16, self-funded HD will be the only option for this 15 minute film.
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