Unused cart of Ektachrome 160

[etimh]

Suppose you just bought a camera off a guy and he hands it over to you with an unused cart of Ektachrome 160, type A, in the film compartment.

Considering not only its age and its questionable 'in-camera" storage, but also, for those of you that might remember, the general characteristics of this stock, what would YOU shoot with this resurrected bit of film?

Of course I want to go ahead and use it on something, but I'm also wondering if it might be used for some productive "experiment," or applied in some interesting way to a particular subject.

Also, are there any unusual problems getting a discontinued stock like this processed?

Thanks for your time and suggestions.

Tim

[Evan Kubota]

"Also, are there any unusual problems getting a discontinued stock like this processed? "

I think so. IIRC the only place that can do it is Rocky Mountain Photo, for some absurd price ($30 a cart?) and it takes 6 months. I'd definitely shoot the film, but forget processing unless I remembered wrong and it's available for cheaper.

[Angus]

If the cart says EM-26 process then I would shoot it as it can be processed in E6.

Otherwise it is more than 20 years old, difficult to process and I woldn't bother.

[tlatosmd]

Just as Angus said, look out for 'EM-26', otherwise it's Evan's solution.

Anyway, I've stopped bothering about films that have already been taken out of their foils. They age so much faster, and there's no way to tell how much has been exposed yet.

[anthony]

I have several catridges of Ekatchrome 160 Sound, stuck in the freezer all EM-26 process.

Theoretically then if they use the E-6 process, would that mean that Dwayne's would also be able to handle this stock as it will be the same process as E64, or are they developed slightly differently.

Might have tp drop Dwayne's a line and ask them??? what are everyone else's thoughts??


Thanks

Anthony M

[chachi]

anthony, the new 64T has no black backing. Your Em-26 stuff does. I doubt Dwaynes will touch it because of that. Your best bet is process it at home, or rather call them ask, then process it at home.

[chachi]

Tlatosmd, funny I read another thread about german ebay and thought to myself there goes the moviechrome for sale on there with the buy it now!

sure enough!

[camera8mm]

I've seen the carts in cameras and a lot of times the square velvet light trap on the door melted onto the cart!
rocky mountain will process the em26, supposevly faster if you use the pk59 mailer, but the mailer was discontinued. they have to have enough em26 to process, otherwise they arent going to waste chemicals on a few rolls. I dont know how many rolls "enough" is for them to make a processing run.

[tlatosmd]

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie ... RK:MEWN:IT

You mean that auction that I've just used the 'buy it now' option of Chachi? The seller stated they were still sealed, and Agfa Moviechromes are my favorite starting with those when they changed their boxes from red to white background (two series, one with a white background and a blue stripe, the latest having a white background and blue and red stripes), it seems they changed their emulsion with their boxes back then.

Those white-boxed Moviechromes give what look like the most beautiful colors to me, even after they're outdated (still have to see the results of some Peruchromes and Revue Superchromes I shot in London which are still being processed by Frank). The only backdraw compared to K40 for me is the higher price as processing is not included, and those Agfa colors probably aren't as durable after processing as they are with Kodachrome (though I mostly shoot for telecine so it doesn't matter that much to me, actually).

BTW Chachi, what about that Moviechrome I sent you? How were your results?

Anyway, as for E6 processing, we have local labs like Frank Bruinsma and Andec for that over here in Europe, I'd be pretty sure that you guys have the same in the US or in NZ (which would probably be the closest on E6 processing in S8 for Australia) which is why some people are enthusiastically welcoming 64T.

[John_Pytlak]

Film that has the black "rem-jet" backing layer MUST be processed in a process that includes a prebath and rem-jet removal washes. Otherwise, it will contaminate the process, ruining your film and that of other customers.

E-160G and other similar films were NOT compatible with the E-6 process.

[etimh]

Just as Angus said, look out for 'EM-26', otherwise it's Evan's solution.

Anyway, I've stopped bothering about films that have already been taken out of their foils. They age so much faster, and there's no way to tell how much has been exposed yet.

It has "process EM-26" on it so I suppose there would be no problem having Rocky Mountain process it.

But you're right Evan, I checked and its $36.50(!) total. And processed on a volume basis, so who knows when you'd get it back.

Considering the questionable condition of the film, then, I guess I'll just use it to test motor functions, etc..

Too bad.

Tim

[etimh]

Film that has the black "rem-jet" backing layer MUST be processed in a process that includes a prebath and rem-jet removal washes. Otherwise, it will contaminate the process, ruining your film and that of other customers.

E-160G and other similar films were NOT compatible with the E-6 process.

Is this contrary to what they are offering here at Rocky Mountain?

http://www.rockymountainfilm.com/ekmovie.htm

Tim

[tlatosmd]

Rocky Mountain are so specialized and high-end (and so expensive!) they do own processes for rem-jet films, I guess that's why they have their bulk system of waiting until they'll have enough for one process that they'll make ends meet with it.

As long as it says 'EM-26', Frank Bruinsma doesn't have a problem with these films, and he once stated to me those Ektachrome 160 films *older* than EM-26 actually are the ones doing damage to his chemicals, not the EM-26/E6-compatible. That's why I referred to small, rather local labs, not as high-end and expensive ones as Rocky Mountains Lab.

[chachi]

tlatosmd, the one you sent me worked out great!

thanks..

[aj]

Film that has the black "rem-jet" backing layer MUST be processed in a process that includes a prebath and rem-jet removal washes. Otherwise, it will contaminate the process, ruining your film and that of other customers.

E-160G and other similar films were NOT compatible with the E-6 process.

Any suggestions on the chemical composition of this pre-bath?

The EM26 types have this remjet too.