90 year old video camera

Post by **camera8mm** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 6:56 am

the mis informed keep them comming.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Cine-Kodak-video-ca ... dZViewItem

Post by **tlatosmd** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 8:44 am

*takes a course of primal scream therapy*

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Post by **Angus** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:46 am

I believe the oldest video cameras date back only 80 years and are no longer in working condition! A couple of video disc recordings from the 20's did survive however...

How ignorant can some people be about cine equipment? I suppose those younger even than myself (I am 32) could be ignorant but really...this is apalling!

Post by **tlatosmd** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:26 am

Angus wrote:I believe the oldest video cameras date back only 80 years and are no longer in working condition! A couple of video disc recordings from the 20's did survive however...

Oh yes, I was intrigued when I found out there are video recordings from the 1920s on vinyl records.

Post by **danpuddick** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:38 am

http://www.tvdawn.com/index.htm

read on!

Post by **tlatosmd** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:45 am

Oh yes, that's the site I saw it on.

Though by the late 1920s, German engineer Paul Loewe and his assistant Manfred v. Ardenne had already invented 90 lines 20fps full-color TV, yet without recording capability yet. ;)

Post by **Angus** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:47 am

A few years ago I asked Mr Mclean if the old recordings might eventually be made available in their entirity. He said he was looking at ways to achieve this...I am happy to say that there is now a double CD available with an audio documentary on Baird's TV work made from recorded interviews with those who worked with him...and also includes CD-ROM material including hours and hours of mp3's of the unedited interviews plus good quality mpegs of the video recordings.

Website · Post by **BigBeaner** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 7:51 pm

I don't know whats worst, the ignorance or how bad the photos are. I think it's just that it blends in with the background.

Post by **jhoneycutt** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 8:42 pm

camera8mm wrote:the mis informed keep them comming.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Cine-Kodak-video-ca ... -approx-90
-years-old_W0QQitemZ5795950836QQcategoryZ15000QQrdZ1QQcmd
ZViewItem

Snort! I love this stuff! I just sent the seller email asking if he had and blank "Video Tape" to use in this video camera. Oh, I am going to hell now!

jack

Post by **Angus** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 8:43 pm

It always strikes me that poor photography in an eBay advert where the object on sale is a camera is.....offputting!

Having said that I recently sold a camera with an awful set of photos because my digital cam is utter crud.

Post by **etimh** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:18 pm

Angus wrote:How ignorant can some people be about cine equipment? I suppose those younger even than myself (I am 32) could be ignorant but really...this is apalling!

Give people a break, you guys. The sloppy use of descriptive terms like "video" simply reflects the pervasive consciousness in our VIDEO DOMINATED CULTURE. Hell, pretty soon we're going to have VIDEO projection in movie theaters

We have history to deal with as well. While a popular medium in its day, Super 8 use was limited to a selected demographic. My grandparents never had a film camera and probably would have been hard pressed to identify one. And what about younger folks? When asked, most of my students don't even know what Super 8.

Interestingly enough, around ten years ago or so, I would ask new students about vinyl records, a technology that seemed completely buried by and erased from cultural consciousness. Its visibility in hip hop and electronic music culture as well as its appropriation as a retro icon (not to mention its actual revival and use) have brought it back to life. Today, the majority of students I ask about the vinyl record can tell me exactly what it is.

Why can't we do this with film shooting? Get the terminology back into the common vernacular and start littering the pop landscape with cool iconic Super 8 graphics? I don't know if it would work but it could expose some of these folks to the facts and traditions of our old-school medium. Whatever, let's just get off our asses and stop laughing at people who don't know as much as we do. I hate that shit.

Tim

Post by **jaxshooter** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:59 pm

Angus wrote:I believe the oldest video cameras date back only 80 years and are no longer in working condition! A couple of video disc recordings from the 20's did survive however...

How ignorant can some people be about cine equipment? I suppose those younger even than myself (I am 32) could be ignorant but really...this is apalling!

I hadn't heard of this.Where can I find more information on this system?

Post by **Splee** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 3:12 am

Angus wrote:I believe the oldest video cameras date back only 80 years and are no longer in working condition! A couple of video disc recordings from the 20's did survive however...

How ignorant can some people be about cine equipment? I suppose those younger even than myself (I am 32) could be ignorant but really...this is apalling!

It's quite common, though - with the rapid and widespread adoption of new forms of technology just about everywhere, it's easy to be ignorant. I'm 30, but a number of people even just a few years younger than me have never played vinyl LPs. And remember that cine film has not been in common domestic use for over 20 years. I can't remember it from my childhood, it's only something I got into recently.

Lee

Post by **tlatosmd** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 4:30 am

jaxshooter wrote:
Angus wrote:I believe the oldest video cameras date back only 80 years and are no longer in working condition! A couple of video disc recordings from the 20's did survive however...

How ignorant can some people be about cine equipment? I suppose those younger even than myself (I am 32) could be ignorant but really...this is apalling!
I hadn't heard of this.Where can I find more information on this system?

danpuddick wrote:http://www.tvdawn.com/index.htm

read on!

Post by **Angus** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 7:59 am

etimh wrote:Interestingly enough, around ten years ago or so, I would ask new students about vinyl records, a technology that seemed completely buried by and erased from cultural consciousness.

It's worth noting that last year one of the teachers at work was explaining to kids how an LP is recorded and they didn't get it...so I went to get one we happen to have in the department and suddenly the cry went up "oh, vinyl" from about half the class.

Also this past Easter my cousin and his kids were visiting, and I was searching for an old record. His eldest daughter (15 at the time) came up to see what I was doing and remarked "Wow, all that vinyl! Do you know those sound better than CDs?"....I couldn't help smiling.

As for super 8, or at least knowing the difference between a cine (movie) camera and video camera...I'd bet most people over 40 ought to know the difference. cine cameras of one sort or another were once almost as popular as camcorders are now...every tourist destination there'd be people walking around with one...every sporting eveng...every public display and so on.

I can remember the 70's, I just happened to get into photography at a very young age. The 8mm's weren't used as much as camcorders today due to film/time issues but they were there.

I reckon the use of "video" as a term is just general sloppiness with the English language that we are increasingly seeing...like inappropriate use of the apostrophe - people just aren't being pulled up on these things any more. God help us when those who shun words of more than 6 letters and think "video's book's and audio's for sale" is the correct spelling...are writing laws and so on.

OK rant over.

BTW I don't laugh at people, I just find it sad that somebody could be so ignorant as to describe that eBay item as a 90 year old video camera. If you don't know what it is...say so!

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