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Post by **Patrick** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:18 am

Filmplus will not be developing 64T because it uses the E6 process?!?!?

I can find no logic in that lab's reasoning.

Post by **Mr Blackstock** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:26 am

yeah, i phoned them on wednesday.

i am not sure what they process all the other films in, but he said, "no."

So it would seem to me that there is a tiny chance T64 will even be available in oz. i guess kodaks rationale would be "if there is nobody locally to process it, why bother stocking it?"

also, i speak with vanbar occasionally, and they had no idea if a new stock was going to be offered.

looks like i will be filming in tri-x only.

Post by **Scotness** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:09 am

They better sell it - I was planning on shooting and developing my own !!! The rep in Brisbane is quite good - I'll get on to him

Scot

Post by **xeno_basso** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 1:58 pm

Scotness wrote:They better sell it - I was planning on shooting and developing my own !!! The rep in Brisbane is quite good - I'll get on to him

Hi Scot...would that be Leigh? If so, yes let him know, Kodak needs to know that there are people in Oz who actually shoot S8. And what do you use to develop your own? I'm told that the E6 stuff you need won't be available in a small kit form but rather only in a large bulky quantity that would only be suitable for a lab.

Shion, yes, you're spot on, it is Neg Labs that is considering the processing of 64T. I hope Kodak can "sweeten" the deal.

To defend FilmPlus, processing in an entirely new solution would be tricky if all you have is one continuos machine. Then again, how did they ever process the VNF stuff :?

xb

Post by **Shion** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:34 pm

xeno_basso wrote:Shion, yes, you're spot on, it is Neg Labs that is considering the processing of 64T. I hope Kodak can "sweeten" the deal.

Cool, thanks for clarifying. They seem good to deal with, but I've only done so once so far. (I've sent them a roll of 16mm 7205 to process... should get it back soon.)

If they do decide to process 64T, I wonder if they'll consider doing Super 8 negative as well.

To defend FilmPlus, processing in an entirely new solution would be tricky if all you have is one continuos machine. Then again, how did they ever process the VNF stuff :?

I think they got rid of whatever machine they used to use for VNF- no idea what sort it was- earlier this year. Probably due to Kodak's announcement that they were discontinuing VNF films.

-Bon

Post by **xeno_basso** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 3:54 pm

Shion wrote: I think they got rid of whatever machine they used to use for VNF- no idea what sort it was- earlier this year. Probably due to Kodak's announcement that they were discontinuing VNF films.

Bon, "got rid of" is an understatement...they literally junked it!

-john

Post by **Patrick** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 4:48 pm

I wouldnt be surprised if Filmplus could develop Ektachrome 64T slide film just as easily as any other E6 slide film. However as stated, if they no longer have the super 8 machine used for VNF processing, then it's a no-go situation.

Then again, I wonder what sort of machine they use to process Plus X and Tri X super 8 film....

Post by **Shion** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 5:00 pm

xeno_basso wrote:Bon, "got rid of" is an understatement...they literally junked it!

Well that answers the question about where it went! (Someone here asked a while back.)

The decision to junk it struck me as a bit sudden... it happened almost immediately after Kodak's announcement, if I'm not mistaken. Considering that 16mm 7250 is still available here, and 7240 has not quite disappeared yet (even in Super 8), it's a shame they didn't keep it going a while longer.

But maybe VNF processing had been unprofitable for them for a while, or the demand wasn't really there even before the films were discontinued. In any case, I think they do all kinds of film processing, not just movie film, so they're probably able to get by without colour movie film services.

I read somewhere that it's possible to convert certain types of VNF processing systems to do E6... I wonder if they ever considered that. Maybe the machine was too old to justify it... who knows.

I wonder if there's anything we can do to encourage Neglab (or someone else) to start doing E6? Maybe a petition of people in Australia who are genuinely keen to utilise such a service. A 'real' petition, complete with contact details, each person's desired formats (8mm, 16mm, and/or 35mm) and the prices they'd be willing to pay, would probably be more useful to them (and to us) than a typical on-line petition. Any thoughts?

-Bon

Post by **Patrick** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:49 pm

I'll definitely be in for a petition for getting 64T into this country and for getting it developed here also.

Post by **martin** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:31 am

followed by phonecalls of

" Do you guys develop 64T? "

Post by **xeno_basso** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:58 am

Kodak will be passing on my details to Neg so I guess a show of hands would be a good idea.

Anyone know the best way of co-ordinating all the (hopefully hundreds of) responses?

I'm thinking all the AUS forum posters, all the film schools that may have junked film for DV since developing was too hard/eratic, all the retailers of the current crop of Super 8 film stock, etc.

I could get a flier together along with some pertinent info and send...whatever way it goes we need to show Neg that there is a market here AND in the wider Asian sphere. There must be shooters in NZ and south-east asia that Neg could potentially tap into?

Look forward to your replies.

xb

Post by **Shion** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:27 pm

Let's start with a new thread in this forum, and perhaps one over at cinematography.com, targeted at potential users in Australia and New Zealand (of E6 movie film in general, not just 8mm 64T).

An Excel spreadsheet maintained by you would probably be as good a way as any to keep track of the responses- of which I don't expect there to be "hundreds," but I guess we'll need a fair few for this to be taken seriously.

There should be emphasis on people giving genuine, realistic answers as to how much they'll use. (This is why I wanted to avoid a "Petition Online"-style thing- too easy for people to get all their friends to sign up just to help them out, without really meaning it.)

The questions should be kept simple. I think the following five details from each person would be enough:
(1) Name
(2) Email address
(3) Postcode
(4) Anticipated formats (8mm, 16mm, 35mm)
(5) Anticipated quantity/frequency of use

I'm not sure about approaching film schools... I highly doubt that any school that has ditched film (or only ever taught on video) would reverse that decision on the basis of E6 processing becoming available. But maybe we could send them fliers, for them to forward on to any interested students.

Any other ideas?

-Bon