Zapruder's film
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Zapruder's film
This name is famous for obvious reason, the man who shot an 8mm film of the JFK murder. I recently bought the VHS of "IMAGE OF AN ASSASINATION: A NEW LOOK AT ZAPRUDERS FILM" it was a short video but it was interesting to see how they transfered the film and the explanation of the different steps to enhance the film.
This process would be costly but I wonder a how a super 8 film looks using the same technique and taking care of the lighting, focus etc. Any replies?
This process would be costly but I wonder a how a super 8 film looks using the same technique and taking care of the lighting, focus etc. Any replies?
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Recently I saw on TV an documentary about JFK´s assasination, and obviously, Zapruder film appears and others Std 8 footages shoted that day in Dallas.
Zapruder footage looks awesome, compared to old features of that film. It seems to be that this film and other 8mm footages were digitized using an HQ device.
Carlos.
Zapruder footage looks awesome, compared to old features of that film. It seems to be that this film and other 8mm footages were digitized using an HQ device.
Carlos.
Carlos.
What many people don't know is that there were many films taken that day: Muchmore, Nix, Hughes, Bell (?), Zapruder, and a few others.
Many of them occured during the earlier parts of the motorcade. Only the Muchmore, Nix and Zapruder films were taken during the shots.
Zapruder used a Bell and Howell Director Series 8mm zoom camera with Kodachrome film. I have the same exact model camera in my collection.
Many of them occured during the earlier parts of the motorcade. Only the Muchmore, Nix and Zapruder films were taken during the shots.
Zapruder used a Bell and Howell Director Series 8mm zoom camera with Kodachrome film. I have the same exact model camera in my collection.
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http://aic.stanford.edu/meetings/archiv ... arabe.htmlCarlos 8mm wrote:It seems to be that this film and other 8mm footages were digitized using an HQ device.
"At the National Archives II facility in College Park, MD, we made a 4" x 5" transparency of each frame, incorporating reference standards for sequence, optical density, color balance and magnification, at the highest resolution possible. There TV of Chicago, IL then scanned the transparencies to produce high resolution digital image files. Next, the image files were re- sequenced, using the sprocket holes and frame edges as registration guides. Finally, several versions of the Kennedy assassination film were incorporated in the documentary "Images of an Assassination" which MPI Teleproductions produced in both VHS and DVD formats.
Copying each frame to large format transparency accomplished several important conservation goals: First, it made the visual information present on the original film more accessible. Each frame can be studied with the naked eye or with minimal magnification, without exposing the original film to potentially damaging handling. Second, should the original film suffer total disintegration, these copies would still be available with minimal information loss; they become a defacto second generation archive. Finally, it is infinitely easier to alter a digital image; a series of color transparencies, all produced in a single run, represent highly credible evidence.
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The camera was a Leitz Aristophot photomacrographic camera, essentially a vertical 4" x 5" camera on a rigid stand. The lens was a Zeiss 40 mm f/4.5 Luminar, which is designed for photomacrography in the range of 10 X magnification. The light source was a ChromaPro 45, a light source designed for transparency duplication; it incorporated yellow, magenta and cyan dichroic filters so that subtle color adjustments could be made whenever necessary. The film, Kodak 6121, was calibrated to three different bulbs. A voltage stabilizer minimized color changes due to electric current fluctuations. The photography was done in a darkened room; film exposure was accomplished by turning on the light source with an enlarging timer capable of 0.1 second increments."
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I've recently seen the Zapruder film online for download, and several areas on the image were masked all through the film. What was that about? Were they masking scratches? Had that copy been accidentally shredded and later labourously puzzled together with several parts of the image missing? Were they trying to emphasize the Presidential car and the school-book depository? Or were they trying to hide something? Questions, questions...
What I've seen in Oliver Stone's JFK didn't have that masking. Yet I also suppose he re-enacted lots of that scene too shoot it on S8.
What I've seen in Oliver Stone's JFK didn't have that masking. Yet I also suppose he re-enacted lots of that scene too shoot it on S8.
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There are some theories that the film itself was altered on its way to...somewhere...in 1963 right after the initial viewing by Zapruder, Secret Service, new outlets, etc. From watching it myself I see a number of areas of "missing" film (people moving at a slow pace in one frame suddenly move 10 feet in the next, for example). But, who knows.
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I believe the masking you saw was actually just the showing of the addition of the image between the sprockets. The B+H camera gate actually was bigger than the image area of R-8mm and image is visable between the sprocket holes. By including this image area and slightly cropping the top and bottom of the normal image area will give a widescreen image. I have a DVD that shows this.
There is a major telltale defect in the Zapruder film as it exists today. There is an ugly splice right when the President is passing behind the sign which is where he is first hit. The FBI says that the film broke when the lab was making a copy. This is so rediculous that it doesn't need comment. If you view the film frame by frame, you just do still get a glimpse of the man holding the black umbrella. A mafia hit man who confessed to shooting JFK before he died said that the signal to shot was a man opening an umbrella...
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There is a major telltale defect in the Zapruder film as it exists today. There is an ugly splice right when the President is passing behind the sign which is where he is first hit. The FBI says that the film broke when the lab was making a copy. This is so rediculous that it doesn't need comment. If you view the film frame by frame, you just do still get a glimpse of the man holding the black umbrella. A mafia hit man who confessed to shooting JFK before he died said that the signal to shot was a man opening an umbrella...
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Ah yes, the bullet hole in the sign...
Back in the Ottoman Empire before WWI, Turkish government spies would distribute bogus subversive material to the Armenian population and call all interested citizens to attend underground meetings. Once the meetings were underway, troops would round up everybody and shoot the lot of them.
I wonder if that's also the purpose of stirring up the old JFK story... Or why they want me to sign the K40 petition?
Back in the Ottoman Empire before WWI, Turkish government spies would distribute bogus subversive material to the Armenian population and call all interested citizens to attend underground meetings. Once the meetings were underway, troops would round up everybody and shoot the lot of them.
I wonder if that's also the purpose of stirring up the old JFK story... Or why they want me to sign the K40 petition?
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from a prev post:
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another old postS8 Booster wrote:Check frame Z228: http://jfk.iefactory.com/galeria/zapruder.htm
S8 Booster wrote:Wondered if the Zapruder film was avail on the net and stumbled across this http://jfk.iefactory.com/galeria/zapruder.htm which shows some - bad details - actually a close up clip of the hit as well as many other frames from the film. In Espanol?
Guess a lot of this is avail in the USA though.
The complete "clip" is available here:
http://harrymarnell.com/media/zapruder.avi
Conspiracy theory no X:
Now, does the JFK car delibrately slow down so the shooter can get a better aim?
Watch the clip and see for yourself.
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..tnx for reminding me Michael Lehnert.... or Santo or.... cinematography.com super8 - the forum of Rednex, Wannabees and Pretenders...
The umbrella man is far from mysterious-he testified before the Warren Commission, stating that his opening of an umbrella was a referance to Neville Chamberlain (a man who never went anywhere without one). It was Chamberlain who met with Hitler and achieved 'peace' for all of Europe-of course, Hitler began his conquest of the continent shortly thereafter. It was the aim of the umbrella man to criticize kennedy's policies in Vietnam through this obscure reference. There is a nice photo of the umbrella man on the steps of the capital in washington doing the same thing.
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What I've referred to looked similar to this:

Sprocket holes?

Sprocket holes?
Funny thing, when I translate those Spanish paragraphs to English using Bablefish, the results are almost identical to Kevin Costner's English lines from JFK. It's not just the facts, it's also the sentences, grammar, order of things, and metaphors.S8Booster wrote:Wondered if the Zapruder film was avail on the net and stumbled across this http://jfk.iefactory.com/galeria/zapruder.htm which shows some - bad details - actually a close up clip of the hit as well as many other frames from the film. In Espanol?
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