16mm easy load.

[scottbobo2]

Hello,what is the easiest 16mm camera to load. I heard that it is the scoopic that correct. And is it a good idea to use the pop in loads from pro8mm? It would seem that the pop in loads would be just like the super 8 kodachrome films by kodak, pop it in a shoot, would anyone recommend this?. Thanks

[MovieStuff]

Hello,what is the easiest 16mm camera to load. I heard that it is the scoopic that correct.

Yes.

Roger
http://www.moviestuff.tv

[downix]

I'd actually say it is the Bell and Howell 200EE, but that's a magazine camera. Literally, slide the magazine in, close the door, ready to rock and roll. Of course getting the pre-loaded magazines is rather expensive....

For normal 16mm, the Scoopic is definately tops. A lot easier than my K-3 anyways.

[Uppsala BildTeknik]

How about R16? Is it easy? Doesen´t look too complicated to me.
I haven´t even given it a thought that it would be difficult to load, hopefully I am wrong... 8-[

[ccortez]

How about R16? Is it easy? Doesen´t look too complicated to me.
I haven´t even given it a thought that it would be difficult to load, hopefully I am wrong... 8-[

As daylight spool cameras go, R16 is horrible to load. I hate it. I often consider selling mine because of it.

To me, the Bolex and the Filmo are really easy.

R16 bad bad bad.

Sorry, Kent...

[Uppsala BildTeknik]

](*,) OK, I suppose I will just have to give it a try, I will use leader the first time just to make sure I won´t ruin precious film. ](*,)

[T-Scan]

R16 bad bad bad

Try snapping the film in from the side into the sprockets. it goes in and catches real easy. I can load mine in less than 30 seconds.

[audadvnc]

I agree with downix, the 50' magazine cameras are instant load. They are essentially the direct ancestors of the Super 8 cartridge loading cameras.

You can reload the cartridges at your leisure in the darkroom for ready use in the field. I can change the film in a cartridge in about 5 minutes. But they are only 50' 16mm loads, meaning they run 90 seconds a cartridge, and they require 2 perf film which isn't as easy to find nowadays.

But the B&H 200 camera (the grey one in my avatar) is smaller than most Super 8 cameras, takes better pictures than any Canon, Nizo or Beaulieu, and costs $15 on eBay. What are you waiting for?

[audadvnc]

And of course at the other end of the price & quality spectrum, the modern Arri SR's and Aatons are also magazine cameras designed for quick changing...

[reflex]

As daylight spool cameras go, R16 is horrible to load. I hate it. I often consider selling mine because of it.

I don't mind it. Fiddly, yes. Horrible? No.

Which explains why I'm trying to pull together the spare cash & gear to convince ccortez to part with his R-16.

[S8 Booster]

the scoopic has n autoload function like many s8 projectors.
takes care of the loops n all.

t

[mattias]

of the cameras that aren't automatic i think the arri s is the easiest because there's just so much room in there. you can do it with gloves in the winter.

/matt

[Scotness]

The thing with the R16 is you can use the 200foot magazines - if you have two you can have one loaded up and waeting and one on the camera ready to shoot at the start of the day.

The advantage is that you gain more than just time because overall you'll get less fogging when you load 200 feet than you will on 2 x 100 feet if you know what I mean - and on a long shoot you'll save a co0nsiderable amount of film.

Scot

[mattias]

The advantage is that you gain more than just time because overall you'll get less fogging when you load 200 feet than you will on 2 x 100 feet if you know what I mean

except the 100 foot spools are really 110 foot spools for this very reason. or are you saying that the 200 foot spools hold 220 feet?

/matt

[Scotness]

Well they may hold 220 I don't know - I didn't know 100 feet spools were 110 - I guess it depends on how tight you wind it too - but if you're shooting short ends - which I do you don't always get exactly 100 to wind on to a spool - eg better to wind 180 feet on to a 200 foot spool than to split it into 100 and 80 feet and then get to fog two lots of film rather than one.

I spose the same goes when you don't shoot short ends but get it from a 400 foot core - even at 110 feet each you would have 330 feet plus 70 on the fourth daylight spool -- or just 2 x 200 feet.

Scot