How much would you pay for a Kaccema cart?

[Carlos 8mm]

The general conception is that Kahl's filmstocks suck badly. And the company is not recommended to be dealt with. If you want a gritty look, then that's ok.

I don´t think so. I get good results with Kahl B&W reversal and negative stocks using Kaccema cartridges. Concerning Kahl´s services (developing, telecine, etc) I´ve got nothing to say, cause I develop these Kahl stocks at home.

BTW, Kaccema´s metal pressure plate can be improved just re-polishing the plate´s surface and doing a new chromium bath.

Carlos.

[sunrise]

It would depend on how readily available filmstock was in, say 200' spools that I can load inside a changing bag.

If I could get film easily available to load into the carts at a good price then I'd certianly pay £10 ($20) for one....actually I'd likely buy 4.

Andec sells Fuji F-500T and F-250D in 200ft spools at 75 EUR. This will fill 4 carts.

The price will then be no more than 20 EUR per cart, which is about the same price as a Kodak cart.

Now where was Booster's test clip from these film types?

michael

[Angus]

75 euros for 200 feet, that's almost 20 euros per 50' load and I'd need processing on top of that.

Not attractive.

[sunrise]

Wittner used to have this type at half that price: ORWO UN 54 S8mm BW-Reversal 60m/200ft.

But it seems now to be sold out.

michael

[sunrise]

I don´t think so. I get good results with Kahl B&W reversal and negative stocks using Kaccema cartridges.

Carlos,

Do you have any examples of these stocks?
What do you use and what are the characteristics?

Their films seem to be more fairly priced (29 EUR for 200ft). That will be 7.50 EUR per cart (How is that, Angus?)

michael

[FilmIs4Ever]

Sunrise, with the demise of K40A, I am looking into getting large quantities of Casseta (how the cyrillic is pronounced) carts and I am wondering if you could get me a bulk discount for buying multiple units. Maybe I'll start out with 50 and work my way up. I'm going to respool them with K40A, have an arrangement with D'Waynes so they send them back to me, and then repeat the process over again. Another question: does the company that makes casseta or any other reloadable S8 cartridge make them new, or are you selling carts from a warehouse somewhere with production being stopped?

Regards.
~Karl Borowski

[sunrise]

Hi Karl,

Yes, Kaccema is Russian for Cassette. Most people know them by that name since it is printed on the label.

The cassettes are actually quite rare, but can be found in small numbers once in a while if you search for them. I did get a small number of carts that I chose to distribute to other forum members. For now I have only 3 cassettes left. But I am trying to set up another distribution thing with a guy from Mosfilm.

The cassettes are all used, I don't think they are being made anymore, although someone mentioned that the ones Kahl have are new (although I doubt that they are much more than cleaned and re-labelled).

For a large other like the one you mentioned I suggest you contact Kahl and try to set up a deal with them.

I think the cassettes will be easy to remanufacture, most of the plastic parts are anyway. It's just the metal parts I'm more concerned with. And I am not really shure how much the final price will be. Maybe I should look into this... I think I will start a new thread...

michael

[aj]

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I think the cassettes will be easy to remanufacture, most of the plastic parts are anyway. It's just the metal parts I'm more concerned with. And I am not really shure how much the final price will be. Maybe I should look into this... I think I will start a new thread...

michael

According to the Wittner site and possibly others. Kodak needed to invest 100's of 1000's (multiple 100.000) to have new molds manufactered. So, it all depends on what is defined as easy. And wasn't there a problem with the industrial rights of the cartrdige design?

I was told by a lab owner here in Amsterdam that there used to exist a S8 refiller in Bruxelles. Who cut open used Kodak's and refilled these...
Then I would opt for Agfa cartrdiges as these far more easier to open and made into refillable things. Euh, for hobby purposes. BTW Andec will return your Kaccema when they process the content.

[gianni1]

Is there any Super 8 stock currently ready to purchase, already cut onto rolls for use in these carts?

Is there a FAQ on how to load-unload them?

Gianni

[tlatosmd]

I wouldn't like it if newer Agfa Moviechromes (white and blue or white and red boxes) would leave the market only for their cartridges as these films hold up pretty well over the years before shooting. Anyway, I think you could ask Frank Bruinsma what happens to the cartidges of all those films he processes.

[sunrise]

http://www.geocities.com/russiancamera/ ... manual.htm tells you how to load the film.

Both Andec, Kahl and Wittner has various stocks for this. But all of them in 200ft lengths.

You can also get any DS8 film and split before inserting in cartridge.

michael

[Basstruc]

I was told by a lab owner here in Amsterdam that there used to exist a S8 refiller in Bruxelles.

Surely ADF Video :

ADF VIDEO S.C./C.V.

Bld Brand Whitlock Laan , 148 - 1200 BRUXELLES/BRUSSEL
Tel : 02/732.93.63
Fax : 02/732.93.59
T.V.A. : 434.374.512
Email : info@adfvideo.be

[FilmIs4Ever]

Do they "sprechen zie Anglisch?" I only know the German I've picked up from WWII movies, sorry to say. I know Russian and a bit of Polish, Latin, and Spanish, but not German. DER-DEN-DEM-DER is about the only conjugation I remember, and since it's just the Deutch equivalent of "THE" that's not much help. Is anyone fluent in both German and English enough to translate a very technical and complicated English letter into German?

Regards
~Karl Borowski

[tlatosmd]

I could lend my hand for that translation FilmIsForever. However, do you intend to write to those German companies Wittner, Andec, or Kahl, or do you intend to write to Belgian ADF Video? I suppose though that all of them would be quite able to speak the English language. I suggest mailing them in English first and if they can't understand anything, ask here again about a proper translation of details.

[andredigital]

Hello!

Just to keep this thread updated:
Last week i asked the guy from the russian website by email about the price for the
Kaccema-cartridges:

One cartridge =15 € + shipping (air parcel)
(including the plastic ring for the film)
Price for shipping: 6 cartridges = 15 €
Paying: Western Union

http://www.geocities.com/cinetank/

greetings,
André