Please help Vicky choose a camera!

Post by **vicky the viking** » Thu May 19, 2005 12:16 pm

jukkasil wrote:note 814 XL E has only 18 fps filming speed, not 24 fps, 814 XL-S has them both.

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8O - thought that being a high end camera, the 814 xl would have 24fps!
.. oh my god... 18fps no use to me on this project.... thanks Jukka for pointing that out!

... back to the search then!

thanks...

vicky

Post by **matt5791** » Thu May 19, 2005 12:28 pm

vicky the viking wrote:oh hi, good points!

gonna be shooting 200t (on this occasion) with a straight transfer to digibeta - delivered on digibeta.

a camera with good slow motion would be useful.

i guess you're right about the advantage of an external light meter....

some of the work might need quick decisions... i imagine (using automatic exposure) would be good to set the exposure on someone's face and then lock it there for that shot...?

Thanks,

Vicky

I think that 200T is a very good choice because it gives you so much flexibility in your transfer and in your exposure.

What I often do (most of my stuff is shot 'of the hip') when shooting outside is take an incident reading and then make judgements from that.

Of course if you are able to get up close you could take a reflected reading from someones face and expose for that (or you could use a spot meter) Generally, unless the light is very changeable you should be able to just take your reading and leave it there. If you have the camera on auto there can be a tendency for the aperture to be affected by irrelevant light sources or shadow, this could result in over/under exposure of your subjects and worse create a visible darkening/lightening of the whole frame - a la camcorder.

I would be inclined to overexpose the 200T slightly - outside and with the 85 filter it has an EI of 125ASA, so you could err on the side of over exposure and set your meter to 100ASA.

If you end up using a Beaulieu 4008 an important point to note is that the internal 85 filter is engaged/disengaged with a small lever inside the film compartment. The Vision2 200T cartridges do not have the requisite notch and so disengage the 85 filter when you insert them: Solution: use a sharp knife and cut your own notch or use a screw on filter on the lens.

Hope this helps.

Where are based?

Post by **vicky the viking** » Thu May 19, 2005 12:42 pm

matt5791 wrote:
I think that 200T is a very good choice because it gives you so much flexibility in your transfer and in your exposure.

I would be inclined to overexpose the 200T slightly - outside and with the 85 filter it has an EI of 125ASA, so you could err on the side of over exposure and set your meter to 100ASA.
Hope this helps.

Where are based?

Thanks for the great advice Matt, I'll keep all that in mind when shooting.... !!

I'm in Brighton, you?

Post by **Angus** » Thu May 19, 2005 12:49 pm

Seems that Brighton is a real hotbed of super 8 activity!

Every time I visit Brighton I make a beeline for Clocktower Cameras...not too much 8mm gear there but fab bargain boxes full of goodies.

Oddly enough I don't think I have shot super 8 in Brighton since 2000, which is rather daft of me. Maybe we should all have a meeting sometime in Brighton?

Post by **sunrise** » Thu May 19, 2005 12:57 pm

I bought my first Super camera in Brighton. A Canon 318 that has had many travels to festivals etc. It is now dead.

Look up Andersens Tears in the member list, he is from Brighton too.

michael

Post by **sunrise** » Thu May 19, 2005 1:05 pm

Bringing back the memories...

michael

Post by **Angus** » Thu May 19, 2005 1:07 pm

The one and only time I shot super 8 in Brighton I remember some Ektachrome 7240 on the pier at night...made the neon lighting look really great. I got pulled up by a security guy in the amusement arcade filming fruit (slot) machines but when he saw my Elmo 110 he let me continue...same story in Vegas a couple of years later!

Post by **vicky the viking** » Thu May 19, 2005 1:15 pm

sunrise wrote:I bought my first Super camera in Brighton. A Canon 318 that has had many travels to festivals etc. It is now dead.

Look up Andersens Tears in the member list, he is from Brighton too.

michael

hi! is this andersens tears guy still around? seems some old posts from him, but it was a little while ago.... see he shoots with Nizos... if I could get hold of him, maybe I could persuade him to let me have a go!

LoL
vicky

Post by **vicky the viking** » Thu May 19, 2005 1:18 pm

Angus wrote:Seems that Brighton is a real hotbed of super 8 activity!

Every time I visit Brighton I make a beeline for Clocktower Cameras...not too much 8mm gear there but fab bargain boxes full of goodies.

Oddly enough I don't think I have shot super 8 in Brighton since 2000, which is rather daft of me. Maybe we should all have a meeting sometime in Brighton?

I traded an old Practika BC1 outfit for 4 rolls of k40 at Clock Tower Cameras a couple of months ago! Jessops turned me down....

would be up for a meet in Brighton!

always see people out and about with various Super 8's....

curious to know which cameras you have slung over your shoulders Angus!?!?!

Vicky

Post by **vicky the viking** » Thu May 19, 2005 1:19 pm

sunrise wrote:Bringing back the memories...

michael

Brighton festival?

Post by **vicky the viking** » Thu May 19, 2005 1:22 pm

Angus wrote:The one and only time I shot super 8 in Brighton I remember some Ektachrome 7240 on the pier at night...made the neon lighting look really great. I got pulled up by a security guy in the amusement arcade filming fruit (slot) machines but when he saw my Elmo 110 he let me continue...same story in Vegas a couple of years later!

Tried this before too.. they're pretty tight there....

Managed to get some footage of the West Pier before it became a target for arsonists!

Was only screwing around with an old Agfa Moviezoom... but what the heck... got some footage anyways!

Vix

Post by **matt5791** » Thu May 19, 2005 1:27 pm

vicky the viking wrote:
Managed to get some footage of the West Pier before it became a target for arsonists!

Vix

Shame you didn't get a shot of the subsequent fire

Matt

Post by **Angus** » Thu May 19, 2005 2:20 pm

Vicky wrote:
I traded an old Practika BC1 outfit for 4 rolls of k40 at Clock Tower Cameras a couple of months ago! Jessops turned me down....

would be up for a meet in Brighton!

always see people out and about with various Super 8's....

curious to know which cameras you have slung over your shoulders Angus!?!?!

Vicky

Well of the super 8 variety...

Elmo Super 110
Elmo 1012s-xl
Beaulieu 1008XL
Chinon 1200SM
Chinon Pacific 200/8XL
Chinon Pacific 310
Canon 514XL (probably for sale soon)
Sankyo MF606

std 8
Quarz 5
(older Quarz)

Of the still variety:

Praktica BX20S
Praktica BC1 (not bought from clocktower however!)
Nikon F50
Kiev 6TL

Post by **Angus** » Thu May 19, 2005 2:24 pm

As for a meet in Brighton....we could invade the pier armed with a super 8 camera each!

Or go to a pub, be an excuse to try some Vision 500T

Post by **sunrise** » Thu May 19, 2005 4:18 pm

vicky the viking wrote:Brighton festival?

No, Roskilde. But the camera was the one I bought in Brighton.

You could try dropping Jamie (Andersens Tears) an email.

michael