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You guys crack me up.
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Booster, your critisism is not welcome until you have seen the magazine. I tell you: we want to deal with facts, not with irrational bla bla like it is done sometimes in the forum. That will help nobody, that will give nobody any information. I really think you should not participate in a debate that is called "too expensive magazine". You will not buy it. Fine! So shut up here with noise that makes no sence because you do not know the product. You might hear it through the lines: I get angry about stupid senceless forum debates!

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Early in this thread I agreed that it could be a good idea to make the magazine in a web format. That's not to say I would take the web format over the printed magazine though. When I have a magazine I actually read it, but when I'm surfing the web, I tend to get distracted with quicklinks in the article or things of that nature.

I fully support the idea of the magazine and I commend Juergen on his efforts. I hope it is a huge success not only for Juergen but for the Super8 and 16mm community as well.

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i don´t give a fuck really - i just hate to see idiosyntcratic trash from biased amateur pretenders drippling out in the public when none of it is well funded and no way holds water by a long shot on professional terms.
Booster...Where's your Super8 magazine?
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Juergen, you have EVERY right to get ungry since we are talking about your magazine but please let's ALL calm down.
We are supposed to be happy about this new (English) release.
S8 Booster, have you ever read (or looked) the smallformat magazine?
I have more than 100 issues and allthough my Germans are more than inadequate I'm quite happy with the contents of the mag. Anyway we must see and then criticize...Now about your last post, haven't you noticed that we are all outdated here?
It's an outdated forum for outdated hobbyists.
However, you noticed that most of us aren't true filmmakers.
So what? We aren't and DON'T want to be! Is that so bad?
Do we all have to be KUBRICKs?
So why all these negative comments? Don't take them all too seriously.
This magazine does not intend to "show us the future", I see it as a nostalgic journey...
In my real life I'm dealing with computer networks, I'm fed up with fiber optics and 10G-Ethernets, so it is really and oasis to me to read about a small 50 years old Bolex or "how to achieve perfect splices".
If you want a mag for the future, there are plenty out there.
But this, is something that you can't find...
and please, don't talk about cameras with Juergen listening!!!!!
Probably you don't know the man!!!! Buy his books! You'll love them!
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what's cool about this forum, what seems to be cool with the magazine and what's ultimately cool about small gauge filmmaking is that it's all hands on, do it yourself, cutting corners, (re)inventing and so on. i love it. as you may know by now since some people love to hold it against me i happen to be a professional filmmaker, but that's not why i'm here, quite the opposite. ten years ago when i started out as a filmmaker i learned a lot through these boards but now i don't, about "professional filmmaking" that is. but when you rent 35mm cameras for thousands every week, sit in fancy offices trying to explain why a crane shot is really necessary and run with huge hmi's untill you're half dead, it's *fun* to hear an amateur's take on the super 8 notching system and somebody who thinks they've revolutionized the film world by reinventing the workprinter, but this time it's *even* slower. ;-)

and sorry, i can't resist: this doesn't change my view on kodachrome though. :-) i think amateurs too will benefit from its death. like i said most of the super 8 i shoot is for myself with no budget, i.e. amateur stuff.

oh, and i love paper. keep it up. web zines suck.

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I'm pleased that Juergen is taking the risk of introducing an english-language magazine.

And I'm happy that it's paper.

Electronic formats are horrible: I spend time scrolling rather than reading, I can't flip back and forth quickly, I can't toss it in my bag and read it on the train in the morning, and the font and picture resolution is dismal. Its like trying to read a novel on a PDA. Possible, but stupid.

I hope enough people buy to make this a long-term venture. Juergen would win, and we would win too.

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Post by monobath »

I agree, I prefer a paper format for magazines. I sent my 10 bucks in for the first issue, and if I like it and find it a pleasure to read, I'll happily pay the 70 or 80 or whatever of a year subscription.

Thanks, Juergen, for producing it. I look forward to reading the English language issue,
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Thanks, monobath, thanks reflex, for your nice words. That builds me up a little bit - in this frustrating days. Indeed, we need a lot of subcribers for the first issue.

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Juergen wrote:Thanks, monobath, thanks reflex, for your nice words.
well you're welcome?!? i guess i should have mentioned your name more frequently in my post. helps with the search engines... ;-)

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*would like to note he advertised Small Format a bit in his How have you spent Global S8 Day? thread in this forum and keeps checking current issues's topics for personally interesting subjects on http://www.schmalfilm.de and http://www.wittner-kinotechnik.de*
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