I think like many here, my main fear now is that super8 will simply become too expensive to justify- I am not a pro or semi-pro user! I just ordered a few rolls of K40 from 7dayshop.com and noticed that they offer E6 processing for 35mm. They have also been pretty good to us (in europe at least) with their pricing and support of super8 (pretty amazing actually!)
So how about this for an idea- if enough of us email them with the suggestion, maybe we can convince them to take on super8 E6 processing, and perhaps a process paid option on the film when it comes out? It could be just like the good old days- they usually take a couple of weeks to deliver ;-)
Mark
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I've done just the same! I've ordered some K40, asked them to get as much more of it as they can before it runs out, and to work on getting a good supply of E64T when it becomes available. I sincerely hope they will - their support of S8 in the past has been good, and it would be great if it continues. So...all you Britishers, get in touch.
Lee
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I agree Sparky, can't see it being any cheaper unless you process yourself. I'm not into that and just want an all-in-one package.
One thing I don't see is how this will all work. Do Kodak contact labs and ask them to provide E6 processing or do the labs approach Kodak or will they wait to see the demand from people with exposed film wanting it developed. Can it really be down to us 'cos we don't know what Kodak are going to do? I would have hoped all this would have been sorted out before the release of the new film instead of having to second guess.
Anyway, better be proactive and add my email to the queue for 7dayshop, they do seem responsive to suggestions.
Stevie
One thing I don't see is how this will all work. Do Kodak contact labs and ask them to provide E6 processing or do the labs approach Kodak or will they wait to see the demand from people with exposed film wanting it developed. Can it really be down to us 'cos we don't know what Kodak are going to do? I would have hoped all this would have been sorted out before the release of the new film instead of having to second guess.
Anyway, better be proactive and add my email to the queue for 7dayshop, they do seem responsive to suggestions.
Stevie
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Why not give our business to to someone that REALLY supports Super 8 like Frank Bruinsma at Super 8 Reversal Lab.
http://www.super8.nl/english/e_index.htm
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Just got this reply from dlab7- the processing side of 7dayshop:
Anyone care to try and convince them otherwise? Address to write to is sales@dlab7.com
Looks like it won't happen.I’m sorry we can’t help but the truth is our equipment simply isn’t geared up for cine film. The longest length we can take is 36 exposures of 35mm film. I realize there might be business potential there for a while, but for how long before cine users finally confine their cameras to the loft? Also the set-up costs of a laboratory would be massive.
Anyone care to try and convince them otherwise? Address to write to is sales@dlab7.com
Now let me quote from their reply:
'but for how long before cine users finally confine their cameras to the loft?'
Some support we have here. hehehehehehe
This is actually quite a rude reply. Is that what you call support guys!
If I am you, my reply will be something like that:
Quote: The longest length we can take is 36 exposures of 35mm film.
Reply: Weeeeellllll! Can't you expose the Super8 roll 36 frames at a time :-D I mean - absurd answers from Mr. 7Day Super-Duper Support demands absurd replies.
'but for how long before cine users finally confine their cameras to the loft?'
Some support we have here. hehehehehehe
This is actually quite a rude reply. Is that what you call support guys!
If I am you, my reply will be something like that:
Quote: The longest length we can take is 36 exposures of 35mm film.
Reply: Weeeeellllll! Can't you expose the Super8 roll 36 frames at a time :-D I mean - absurd answers from Mr. 7Day Super-Duper Support demands absurd replies.
Sparky wrote:Just got this reply from dlab7- the processing side of 7dayshop:
Looks like it won't happen.I’m sorry we can’t help but the truth is our equipment simply isn’t geared up for cine film. The longest length we can take is 36 exposures of 35mm film. I realize there might be business potential there for a while, but for how long before cine users finally confine their cameras to the loft? Also the set-up costs of a laboratory would be massive.
Anyone care to try and convince them otherwise? Address to write to is sales@dlab7.com
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Stevie, I really hope so but somehow I'm doubtful- they are very stills and digital based. I did get another very nice email from the owner (?) wishingThey may get interested........
but it would cost them a huge amount to kit up for super8 on a large scale. And he's not personally interested.Long may you continue with your chosen medium.
Hassan, Frank does great work and is also pretty reasonable. BUT is he kitted up to take over from Lausanne with their 100,000 carts per year from Germany alone? I don't know. He seems to only process on Fridays.
My biggest fear (and this is a selfish one) is that I won't be able to afford shooting super8 as much as I have with the demise of K40. Sure the E-6 change is good in many ways, but going on the price of a cart of Ekta 7240 inc processing from Frank, + delivery and tax, we're looking at around 40 euros a cart, which is about 3 times the price we've been enjoying for K40. I'm excited to try a new stock like the rest, but fearful too.
People laugh at me when I tell them I'm paying £10 for 3 mins of footage, and I can't re-use it! But its worth it to me. £30 is going into a different ball-park
So I tried with the place that offers the best deals in photography for us in the UK, I hoped, but I think I failed. Sorry.
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why is that an absurd answer? if their machine can't take anything longer than that what is he supposed to say? tell a lie to keep this forum happy? that hardly changes the capacity of their machine, does it? :-)Lunar07 wrote: Quote: The longest length we can take is 36 exposures of 35mm film.
Reply: Weeeeellllll! Can't you expose the Super8 roll 36 frames at a time :-D I mean - absurd answers from Mr. 7Day Super-Duper Support demands absurd replies.
/matt
The absurd is in telling someone to get their cameras and retire them to the loft.
It is simply none of their business. Thus follows the absurd reply below.
It is simply none of their business. Thus follows the absurd reply below.
mattias wrote:why is that an absurd answer? if their machine can't take anything longer than that what is he supposed to say? tell a lie to keep this forum happy? that hardly changes the capacity of their machine, does it?Lunar07 wrote: Quote: The longest length we can take is 36 exposures of 35mm film.
Reply: Weeeeellllll! Can't you expose the Super8 roll 36 frames at a time :-D I mean - absurd answers from Mr. 7Day Super-Duper Support demands absurd replies.
/matt
I quite agree that there is nothing absurd about 7dayshop's answer. I think it is pretty obvious that they have built their business around a low-cost model, which requires volume sales and a guaranteed return on investment. Hence...they stock K40 because they can buy and sell enough of it to turn a profit, but do not stock the other Super 8 films because they sell in much smaller quantities, and therefore they can't negotiate suitable volume discounts from Kodak. And...35mm E6 processing is a sufficiently large volume business to be profitable, but setting up for E6 Super 8 does not fit in with a high-volume, low-cost model.Lunar07 wrote:The absurd is in telling someone to get their cameras and retire them to the loft.
It is simply none of their business. Thus follows the absurd reply below.
mattias wrote:why is that an absurd answer? if their machine can't take anything longer than that what is he supposed to say? tell a lie to keep this forum happy? that hardly changes the capacity of their machine, does it?Lunar07 wrote: Quote: The longest length we can take is 36 exposures of 35mm film.
Reply: Weeeeellllll! Can't you expose the Super8 roll 36 frames at a time :-D I mean - absurd answers from Mr. 7Day Super-Duper Support demands absurd replies.
/matt
And yes, 7dayshop do support Super 8. The very fact that (a) they sell any Super 8 film at all, and (b) do so at the UK's lowest price, and (c) sell spools, splicers etc, years after others pulled out of the market, is testament to that.
So don't diss them. As the vast majority of UK posters on this board will testify, they're a great operation that keeps us supplied with some excellent bargains.
Lee