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I understand that initial editing was mechanical. On some cuts, if you examine the movie one frame at a time, you can see what looks like the perf in a splicing tape on the left side of the frame. This comes on the frame immediately before and immediately after the cut. What gives?

Thinking it through I'm pretty sure the perfs would be on the left side of the screen. It's as though the editor put the splicing tape up against the pins in the splicer instead of putting the perfs over the pins.
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Actor wrote:I understand that initial editing was mechanical. On some cuts, if you examine the movie one frame at a time, you can see what looks like the perf in a splicing tape on the left side of the frame. This comes on the frame immediately before and immediately after the cut. What gives?

Thinking it through I'm pretty sure the perfs would be on the left side of the screen. It's as though the editor put the splicing tape up against the pins in the splicer instead of putting the perfs over the pins.
Only Matt Pacini would know for sure but he probably used a Hervic splicer. They are a wrap around splice with way too generous a margin for error on the sprocket holes size. Thus the sprocket holes of the tape are much larger than the sprocket hole of the film. Just a guess.....

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MovieStuff wrote:
Actor wrote:I understand that initial editing was mechanical. On some cuts, if you examine the movie one frame at a time, you can see what looks like the perf in a splicing tape on the left side of the frame. This comes on the frame immediately before and immediately after the cut. What gives?

Thinking it through I'm pretty sure the perfs would be on the left side of the screen. It's as though the editor put the splicing tape up against the pins in the splicer instead of putting the perfs over the pins.
Only Matt Pacini would know for sure but he probably used a Hervic splicer. They are a wrap around splice with way too generous a margin for error on the sprocket holes size. Thus the sprocket holes of the tape are much larger than the sprocket hole of the film. Just a guess.....

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Interesting. The perfs do seem to extend all the way to the edge of the frame, consistent with the tape wrapping around the film.

I'm guessing he must have finished on video because most of his cuts don't have this.
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Howdy!
Yep, I used a Hervice splicer & tapes on my first cut, because they only cover one frame on each side of the cut, and yes, they wrap around to both sides.
The Kodak presstapes are REALLY obvious; four frames full of dust & hair bits flying by the gate... YECHHH!
On my re-edit (on the computer using Premier), I "kinda" tried to get rid of these if I could, but of course, sometimes my original cut was right as far as timing goes, etc., so I kept them.
I chopped almost 45 minutes from my first cut, so believe it or not, it's even more boring in the original "directors cut" (which is why I'm not always a fan of directors cuts!).

The real irritating thing, (and one thankfully only a few people have noticed), is that the tapes, when going through the Rank, would cause a weird 'bump" when they went past a particular guide or pulley, which IS NOT where the gate is, so these bumps happen about a second before the cut.
(Obviously, this is only where the original tape edits remain).

Matt Pacini
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