SUPER 8 ONNATURAL BORN KILLERS

DIEFTHINTIS · Post by **DIEFTHINTIS** » Fri Feb 07, 2003 11:44 am

Recently I had the chance to attend the Oliver Stone movie, Natural Born Killers, in which, according to the PRO8mm site, Super 8 mm footage was used. Played through my DVD on a 32'' wide TV, there were too many shots (mostly on B&W), where the grain was... more than obvious, though the picture looked sharp. On the ather hand, there were just a few (color and B&W) shots which - even on the TV srceen, looked blurred (but no much grainier). Does anybody if the grainy (still sharp...) b&W part of the film, was shot on super 8, or a very - very sensitive 16 mm film?

Post by **Basstruc** » Sun Feb 09, 2003 2:56 am

don't know, but can remember of two parts shot mainly with s8 K40 : the mariage asking on the bridge, & the fight on the montains. Anyway, this movie is crap.
Matt

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Feb 09, 2003 9:18 pm

Yes indeed Basstruc, american cinema is crap all the way.

FErnando

Spain

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Feb 11, 2003 9:00 pm

ACTUALLY ITS A GREAT FILM.

AND IF YOU HAVE THE DVD LISTEN TO OLIVERS STONES COMMENTRY. HE TELLS YOU MOST OF THE DIFFERENT FILM FORMATS. I THOUGHT THE 8MM LOOKED COOLER THAN... SOMETHING REALLY COOL

Post by **Lucas Lightfeat** » Tue Feb 11, 2003 9:35 pm

It feels strange being in this position, normally being a big American antagonist, but I have to say that American cinema isn't crap at all! A lot is, of course, but most cinema generally is mediocre or worse. It's no crapper than French cinema, or Spanish Cinema. If you really believe that, you really have a lot of wonderful films to discover.

The big box office stuff is often shite, but there are some real gems, and to fail to acknowledge that is just ignorant.

I have to say here, that the reason British films are so rubbish, is that anyone with any talent over here goes to America to realise their film dreams for 5 times the money. I should also add that I believe the best American films tend to have a large involvement of British and European cast and crew, especially the directors. Clever directors take Hollywood money out of Hollywood to make their films, IMHO.

Lukas

Post by **Carlos 8mm** » Thu Feb 13, 2003 4:18 pm

Anonymous wrote:Yes indeed Basstruc, american cinema is crap all the way.

FErnando

Spain

I don't think so.
Fernando: Have you seen American Independent Cinema?
There's many good independent filmmakers in the U.S.
Perhaps you refer to the "Hollywood Comercial Propaganda Machine Crap". In this case I agree with you.

Carlos.

Ed · Post by Ed » Sun Feb 16, 2003 5:48 am

most of the black and white footage on NBK was on a 16mm camera. there is alot of color shot in super 8. no 16mm color though. there is a little super black and white, but only little clips mostly.

DIEFTINTIS · Post by **DIEFTINTIS** » Sun Feb 16, 2003 6:05 pm

I thought so, because of the sharpness of the picture. Also there are too many steadicam shots, which I think could not be made with s8. Anybody tried to balance a super 8 camera on a steadicam jr? Anyway, why in most of the s8 cameras the tripod hole seems to be so off-balanced?

supereight · Post by **supereight** » Mon Feb 17, 2003 2:25 am

I remember seeing a still from an article on the movie. It showed Robert Rodriguez shooting with a Beaulieu 7008 pro out in the desert. I haven't seen the film recently but I believe this is during the part that they start feeling the paode (spelling) start kicking in.

Post by **jessh** » Mon Feb 17, 2003 5:55 am

supereight wrote:Robert Rodriguez

wrong filmmaker..... :-)

I have heard of people using super8 cameras with steadycam JR clones, the main thing you need to really do it well is a video tap for the camera.

~Jess

Post by **Lucas Lightfeat** » Mon Feb 17, 2003 6:34 pm

I seem to remember reading that it was indeed a 7008 Pro that was used for NBK, so Supereight is right about that much, form what I remember.

Lucas

Ed · Post by Ed » Mon Feb 17, 2003 7:06 pm

I pretty sure it was oliver stone himself that did most of the super 8 cinematography. theres a picture i saw online of him filming it in the desert. but i couldnt tell what camera he was using, but it was super 8.

Post by **S8 Booster** » Mon Feb 17, 2003 7:40 pm

Some info available:

ftp://ftp.filmshooting.com/upload/pictures/S8NBKOS.jpg

Should be a modified Beaulieu 7008.

R

Post by **Lucas Lightfeat** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 12:51 am

In the bottom left paragraph of that article, it claims that Kodachrome is C41 processing? If that were true, we'd get it processed on any street corner, no?

Lucas

Post by **S8 Booster** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 11:14 am

Kodachrome is definately K-14;
http://www.kodak.com/country/US/en/moti ... 7268.shtml

C-41, isnÃ‚Â´t that the "standard" for older Kodak photo neg films?

Journalist MIX?

R

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