Pro 8mm Max 8

Post by **kentbulza** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:52 am

"MAX-8 will use a frame that is 1.58 (1 inch high by 1.58 inches wide), whereas traditional Super8 or Pro8mm film stocks use a frame of film that is 1.33 (1 inch high by 1.33 wide.)"

Wow! They're REALLY getting a lot out of that 8mm of film.

Santo · Post by **Santo** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:44 pm

:!: Holy crap! So much for people around here filing their gates...
And right on the home page of this site, you say?

Post by **S8W** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:57 pm

I dont understand inches can someone help me out. Have they filed the gate too? and widened the viewfinder masked it to make framing easier.

Tanya

Post by **timdrage** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:16 pm

1" x 1.58"!? What an amazing innovation, an image area wider than the film itself!

They might want to fire their press release proofreader.

Post by **audadvnc** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 3:22 am

Heck that's twice as big as a 35mm film frame. I gotta get me one of those!

Post by **reflex** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 4:00 am

Sigh. Their staff doesn't understand aspect ratios, and their press release makes it sound like they created the new "format."

FYI, I contacted them and they quoted a price of $500-600 plus parts to convert a 4008 to widescreen. Quite a bargain, when you consider that my camera cost half that. :?

Post by **reflex** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 4:01 am

kentbulza wrote:Wow! They're REALLY getting a lot out of that 8mm of film.

Their plan is to make million$ on the film cement you'll need to glue five rolls of S8 film together so you can run it though this monster.

Post by **LastQuark** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 5:31 am

reflex wrote:FYI, I contacted them and they quoted a price of $500-600 plus parts to convert a 4008 to widescreen. Quite a bargain, when you consider that my camera cost half that. :?

From the press release, it doesn't really say if they are going to widen the gate or just add 16:9 marker in the viewfinder. If it is the latter, then it is an expensive conversion.

Here's part of the press release:

The new expanded frame gives a 20% increase in usable picture when framing for HD. The viewfinder on the camera has the 16 x 9 frame marked for better framing during production.

I am not clear if it refers to the gate or just the viewfinder?

If it is the gate, it is very well worth it because it is a major conversion - widening the gate, recentering the lens. and increasing the width of the guillotine mirror.

Hmmm. :roll:

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Post by **jean** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 2:15 pm

duh, seems to me that you get a cute 16:9 frameline in the viewfinder for your $500. If you like that, I can do this for $50 and still feel guilty for ripping you off, but if you want to save $450 then just send in your cameras

I really really doubt that the gate is modified in any way. The beaulieu 4008 shutter is not modification-friendly to say the least.

Santo · Post by **Santo** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 2:42 pm

They make it pretty clear they've enlarged the gate of the camera:

The custom modification expands the frame size on the super 8 master,

and

In the MAX-8 format more of the film frame is being used as it passes through the camera gate.

http://www.filmshooting.com./community/news/max8.php

I know nothing about what would be involved with a Beaulieu, but these guys claim they've done it and it's up for sale.

April Fools isn't for a couple of weeks, so...they must be serious.

Post by **timdrage** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 3:04 pm

Yeah, it sounds like Super Duper 8 given a new name and explained badly. For that money hopefully they're recentreing the lens and viewfinder as well as just filing the gate...

Post by **Lunar07** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 3:35 pm

LastQuark wrote:
Here's part of the press release:
The new expanded frame gives a 20% increase in usable picture when framing for HD. The viewfinder on the camera has the 16 x 9 frame marked for better framing during production.
I am not clear if it refers to the gate or just the viewfinder?

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It is very clear that they are talking about an expanded frame --> modified gate. Is the lens re-centered? Not sure!

Post by **Nigel** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 5:54 pm

The crooks are at it again...

Good Luck

Post by **PITIRRE** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 3:59 am

I think we have to wait until somebody use that thing and put a still on this forum.

Post by **Dre** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 5:12 am

Can someone explain to me why they even use Pro8mm?

They have such a bad reputation IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢m surprised their still in business. Yet people still use them and then complain about the poor service, high prices and sloppy work they do. I havenÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t heard or seen anything good from them. So why use them?

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