Hi everyone!
Well since i have joined this forum, i have found it to be such a great resorce for alot of Super 8 - Know how, and there seems to be alot of cinematographers / film makers, who know what they are talking about. So anyway, thanks for the help so far everyone!
Fairly soon i will be starting my first major Super 8 short. It is going to be 15 minutes long which is longer than anything else i have done previously. I will be shooting with either Plus X or Tri X, and trying yo get a "Film Noir" look. If anyone can give me some advice on the following i would be very happy.
1) Plus X or Tri X for "Film Noir"? (i will be shooting both inside and out)
2) any lighting tips?
3) i want to light through smoke, so any tips on that too. I want to get strong rays of light that stand out, and i want LOADS of contrast. Strong blacks and whites.
Well thanks for any tips guys! I look forward to checking back on my post later.
Steven.
Achieving a "Film Noir" look
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Light it with incandecent hot light spots, floods and china balls.
Use lots of reflectors, er... poster boards with kitchen foil wrap, some painted black to absorb light, modify the lighting.
Use Color Negative films. Convert to B&W in the telecine, or in the post, or non-linear stage.
Try a test shot with color neg, the 500 kodak stuff (if your camera has auto exposure over ride a few stops, or manuallly set it to 400 speed). Otherwise use 200 neg with a XL camera.
Use 24fps, not 18. Record audio with a camcorder & blimped super 8.
Gianni
Use lots of reflectors, er... poster boards with kitchen foil wrap, some painted black to absorb light, modify the lighting.
Use Color Negative films. Convert to B&W in the telecine, or in the post, or non-linear stage.
Try a test shot with color neg, the 500 kodak stuff (if your camera has auto exposure over ride a few stops, or manuallly set it to 400 speed). Otherwise use 200 neg with a XL camera.
Use 24fps, not 18. Record audio with a camcorder & blimped super 8.
Gianni
If you want a fine grained movie try: Plus-X
Contrasty and grainy: Tri-X
Just really grainy: Vision colour neg stocks
Regardless of your choice do a camera test to make sure its what you
want. Test film is cheap compared to finding out in post that you don't like
your 'look'.
If you are going use artifical smoke you will need to have someone dedicated
to operating the smoke machine. Nothing is crappier than having inconsistant
smoke levels between shots. Your guy will have to be constantly paying
attention to keep the smoke levels steady. Be sure to have a few paddles
or something for wafting the smoke around.
Contrasty and grainy: Tri-X
Just really grainy: Vision colour neg stocks
Regardless of your choice do a camera test to make sure its what you
want. Test film is cheap compared to finding out in post that you don't like
your 'look'.
If you are going use artifical smoke you will need to have someone dedicated
to operating the smoke machine. Nothing is crappier than having inconsistant
smoke levels between shots. Your guy will have to be constantly paying
attention to keep the smoke levels steady. Be sure to have a few paddles
or something for wafting the smoke around.
And don't do what i did (only a stupid video messing about project thankfully) and discover in editing that I can be seen waving a tea-towel in the edge of every shot!Be sure to have a few paddles
or something for wafting the smoke around.
:lol:
Tim Drage
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films - http:///www.spiteyourface.com
noise - http://www.cementimental.com
"It's cheaper to shoot someone with a gun than a film camera." - amishman35
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No problem timdrage, i might do a test first. Ill train my friends in the art of smoke control.timdrage wrote: I can be seen waving a tea-towel in the edge of every shot!
:lol:
Study the hard while it's easy.
Do big things while they're small.
The hardest jobs in the world start out easy,
the great affairs of the world start small.
So the wise soul,
by never dealing with great things,
gets great things done
Do big things while they're small.
The hardest jobs in the world start out easy,
the great affairs of the world start small.
So the wise soul,
by never dealing with great things,
gets great things done