Idea for Homemade Telecine

[onsuper8]

You'll get near perfect single images from a frame by frame set-up.

Don't forget though, that if you get the physical set up absolutely spot on (and that is a challenge in itself) and get the computer end to be sufficiently reactive, you may get the system to cope with serveral frames per second.

A 50ft reel will give enough time to make a nice cup of tea!

If you simply video the film (at whatever speed) you won't get complete uninterupted frames, a fact that will just annoy when it comes to editing.

[VideoFred]

Thank you Giles for the link to my site :lol:
Already 28 visitors from your site! 8)
But my system is not DIY
:roll: EDIT: But it is DIY!! (see below) :roll:

About the Philips webcam: I don't use it anymore because my machine vision cam is a lot better, of cource.

However, this topic inspired me to do some Avisynth denoising on one of my ToUcam clips. The clip is also stabilized with the same Avisynth script, by using the depan plugin. (1 pass very fast stabilizing)

The result is very reasonable. (better than I tought)
Here's the clip:
ftp://ftp.filmshooting.com/upload/video ... oised_.mpg




Fred.

[SuperDuper8]

Wonderful!!

Ill definitly try your method! The ToUcam results are stunning.
Once I have that running I can always upgrade to one of those
more expensive cameras in the future.
Ive spotted several ToUcams did you use the ToUcam PRO II 840K?

Thanks Fred!
Patrizio

[mattias]

But my system is not DIY

ok, that would mean that either you didn't build it yourself, or you're not using it for yourself. if a, who did, and if b, how much do you charge for transfers? :-)

/matt

[VideoFred]

Ive spotted several ToUcams did you use the ToUcam PRO II 840K?
Patrizio

Yes, forgot to mention... It must be the ToUcam Pro II. This one has a CCD instead of CMOS. But as you see on my site, I made a new box for the ToUcam print, because on the original ToUcam the print with the CCD on it was not good aligned. With the original wide angle lens this does not matter, but for our purpose it does matter. Also, the IR/UV filter from the ToUcam is on the backsite of the lens, not on the CCD. If you use another lens, you have to add an additional IR/UV filter in front of it. Otherwise, you have poor colors.

BTW: the ToUcam works fine together with Cinecap, my machine vision camera also.

Fred.

[VideoFred]

But my system is not DIY

ok, that would mean that either you didn't build it yourself, or you're not using it for yourself. if a, who did, and if b, how much do you charge for transfers?

/matt

Maybe I don't understand 'DIY' completely... Does this not mean 'from the wall'?

a) and b): me and myself

But at this moment, I only transfer footage from others for testing purpose. To make a good living out of it, I should have to ask at least 3 Euros/minute, with this slow but fine system....

I make more money with my tooling company :mrgreen:

Fred.

[Uppsala BildTeknik]

Someone correct me if I´m wrong, but I think DIY stands for "Do It Yourself".
As in something the average man can accomplish himself without the need to hire someone for the task at hand, like to build a filmtransfer-thingy á la Videofred with a webcamera for their homemovies.

And your invention is DIY, at least in your hands.
If someone would try to make a living off your invention they wouldn´t be DIY-guys, but a company one could hire for filmtransfers.

[christoph]

Maybe I don't understand 'DIY' completely... Does this not mean 'from the wall'?

it means "Do It Yourself"... the most common solution with DIY super8 transfer is off the wall though ;)
++ christoph ++

[mattias]

Maybe I don't understand 'DIY' completely... Does this not mean 'from the wall'?

i'll quote the professor from maniac mansion and day of the tentacle, his answer to the question "what's a tentacle?".

"oh, just something i whipped up in my spare time" :-)

and see kent's definition.

/matt

[VideoFred]

Maybe I don't understand 'DIY' completely... Does this not mean 'from the wall'?

it means "Do It Yourself"... the most common solution with DIY super8 transfer is off the wall though ;)
++ christoph ++

Yes, that is why I a tought it was off the wall. The term is often used, here, for off the wall systems. Thanks for the explanation.

Fred.

[VideoFred]

And your invention is DIY, at least in your hands.
.

Now I see... Do It Yourself.. It's so obvious :oops:
But an invention is too much honor... :oops:
I just put things together, inspired by many others. :lol:

Fred.

[onsuper8]

Oooops international incident started.... appologies!

DIY - i.e. Do It Yourself - or in laymans terms, get some tools, bash some equipment around and come up with a fully functioning solution which matches exactly what you want for (hopefully) a fraction of the cost!

A few observations, I've been experimenting with a micro switch mechnism being actuated by the claw, i.e. when the claw pulls the frame down it then continues its cycle upwards to pull down the next frame. At this point the film is stationary, this is when the computer needs to be told to grab a frame. The switch is mounted to be actuated on the return portion of the cycle.

That's the very tricky bit, if this isn't 100% correct streaking will occur within the image as the latency in the switch/cable/mouse/computer/software chain will miss the stationary frame.

[ccortez]

i'll just say... great dog, fred.

[monobath]

Would this SenTech STC 630CS II camera work for a DIY telecine? I picked up one for under $50 at an electronics store, but I was told they normally cost quite a bit more. I was going to make a surveillance cam out of it, but now I'm wondering if it would work well for telecine.

It has a 1/3 inch CCD. I really don't understand most of the specs, especially in the context of a telecine setup.

The specs for this camera are listed in the PDF: SenTech STC 630CS II

Anyone care to venture a guess as to whether or not it would be usable, and how well it would work?

[VideoFred]

i'll just say... great dog, fred.

Haha, yes, it was Bessy, the teckel. Also named "a walking sigar".

Fred.