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Interlacing problem...

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Hello all,

This may not be the best forum for this, but since I know quite a few people here eventually work digitally after shooting their super 8, I'll risk it.

Just had 7 rolls of BnW super 8 transfered to miniDV... captured it with iMovie on my G5... edited it with Final Cut Express and exported it as an Uncompressed Quicktime movie... of course the resulting QT mov was huge... and yet every time there was horizontal movement those darn interlace lines were clearly visible... terrible. Not suitable to put on a DVD. Does this have something to do with the fact that iMovie captures as a DV stream and not QT? I should have imported with FCE but I was too ansty... I'll probably re-do that part.

hm. Anyone?

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I'm not sure but the problem might be that it was originally transferred to interlaced digital video - it wasn't captured in progressive scan or frame mode.

If that's the case you could get it re-transferred, or deinterlace it on your PC - which would mean you'd lose a little resolution.

You might as well have ago putting it on your tv first though - it might not be so noticeable once it's on TV - like normal interlaced video.

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Dcm wrote:those darn interlace lines were clearly visible... terrible. Not suitable to put on a DVD.
why wouldn't it be suitable to put on a dvd?!? interlaced footage is *supposed* to have interlace artifacts, that's sort of why it's called interlaced.

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Other than the fact that it looks awful?

For one, when I play the film in FCE there are no interlacing artifacts. They only appear when I export. But perhaps it is worth a try making a DVD... perhaps they will disappear.

Now I feel as though I have no idea what I'm talking about. Nevertheless, the end result is ugly.

More experiments I guess.

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Dcm wrote:Other than the fact that it looks awful?
trust me, it won't. crt tv's display the individual fields, and any software dvd player worth its salt deinterlaces on playback, as does video projectors, lcd tv's and other progressive systems.
For one, when I play the film in FCE there are no interlacing artifacts.
that's because fce deinterlaces the canvas. try setting it to 100% and unchecking square pixels. make sure you hold on to something first though. your cocky attitude might get a slight blow. ;-)

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Post by T-Scan »

Why not just compress it? Last time I rendered a clip uncompressed.. it looked like sand paper and took 20 gigs. looks beautiful compressed a little, even on DVD.
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Post by Dre »

I’ve had my fair share of evil interlace line problems with my Hi-8. Here is a good way to fix it. Go to http://www.virtualdub.org/ and download VirtualDub 1.5.10. This program will remove all your interlace lines, the end result looks great.

Once you installed the software. Open your video file in it and go to Video, then click on Filters. In Filters click on Add. Find deinterlace in the list and click on it. Blend fields together should already be selected, if not click on it. And that’s it. Then all you do is produce your video file and all the interlace lines are gone. Works great.

But I am wondering why it has interlace lines if you captured it from miniDV? Did you use Firewire or A/V out to capture it?
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Dre wrote:I’ve had my fair share of evil interlace line problems with my Hi-8. Here is a good way to fix it. Go to http://www.virtualdub.org/ and download VirtualDub 1.5.10. This program will remove all your interlace lines, the end result looks great.
it will make it computer playback look better, but this footage was meant for dvd authoring, and for that deinterlacing will only make it look worse. if the material consists of 50 discrete fields to begin with, as is the case with your hi8 video, deinterlacing looks quite good, and has the nice side effect of creating a more film like motion, but footage transferred from film doesn't have 50 discrete fields, but what's called a "pulldown" pattern and sometimes also frame blending, and if you deinterlace that you'll just make it jerky and less sharp.

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Post by timdrage »

Interlacing is your friend!

And compression is your enemy.

But don't ask me to explain either of them. :P
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