Film help please.

Post by **CleanCut** » Sun Jan 12, 2003 11:15 pm

Hi everybody, I just signed up here, as i just bought a super 8mm camera! I bought a Bauer S 709 XL. I was just wondering about film. I would like to use Color film with sound, and I will be shooting in well light areas, most likely in the summer time. Can someone help me out with which fillm I need to buy and from where? Thanks!

Tam

Post by **+AnonymousGuest+** » Mon Jan 13, 2003 2:53 am

You can forget sound film for starters as Kodak no longer manufacture it. There are other (more complicated) ways to record sound for super-8 but i'll leave for some else to explain

For sure the best stock for you situation is Kodachrome. An excellent micrograin colour stock, very well suited to well light areas. It's also the cheapest stock and process paid, you can't beat it.

I'm not sure where you live to point you anywhere specific, but in my city you can pick it up from most camera stores. Try Kodak online for more information...
Kodak

Post by **Lucas Lightfeat** » Mon Jan 13, 2003 2:54 am

Very nice first camera! Well chosen. Shoot on Kodachrome K40, the classic Super8 film. It has the finest resolution of any film, is the cheapest, is process paid and has wonderful colours. It is a reversal film (like slide film) so it can be projected. Welcome to Super8. Alas, sound film is no longer available on Super8, so sound needs to be recorded elsewhere, like on a minidisc recorder for example......ooh it's complex. Try searching the forum history for more info. We get asked the same questions a lot..

Happy shooting

Lucas

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Jan 13, 2003 4:35 am

Thanks guys. That's exactly what i needed...I'll have to order some over the internet though because I don't think theres very much demand for super 8 film where I live. No sound you say....I guess I'll have to whip up some substitute (stuff like this can always be fun). I'm in a bit of a wait for my camera due to shipping so I should probably order the film now. Thanks again

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Tam

Post by **CleanCut** » Mon Jan 13, 2003 4:43 am

woops forgot to login. I just checked out the K40 film. If I am shoting motion, do I need high speed film? Or is that just for low light levels? Should I be going after the Kodak VISION 200T Color Negative Film or the EASTMAN EKTACHROME VNF 7240 Film on that link +AnonymousGuest+ gave to me?

Tam

Post by **+AnonymousGuest+** » Mon Jan 13, 2003 6:33 am

As the Vision 200T is a negative stock it must be telecined before viewing. I wouldn't recommend it for first time users unless you really must have that look. Also, it is quite expensive when you factor in cost of processing & transfering.

"...I will be shooting in well light areas, most likely in the summer time..."

Kodachrome really is the perfect stock for you. It is designed for just those conditions & looks beautiful.

Personally I'm not a fan of Ektachrome so I won't comment on that one

Post by **jukkasil** » Mon Jan 13, 2003 6:44 am

CleanCut wrote:I bought a Bauer S 709 XL

I love that camera!

If you're interested, here is two mpg-files, I shot with this same camera-model using K40 during Spring 2002:

http://www.sorb-i-tol.com/lapset.mpg

http://www.sorb-i-tol.com/kesa2002.mpg

Post by **CleanCut** » Mon Jan 13, 2003 7:24 am

Wow, very nice footage! The second vid was amazing! Again, thanks everyone for the help. Sorry about all the newbie questions :oops: You said that vision 200T will have to go through telecline, but doesnt the k40 also have too if i want to edit on a computer? Also, I'm goig to be shooting very fast motion when i start off, is k40 too slow? Or does film speed just depend on what type of lighting you have?

Post by **+AnonymousGuest+** » Mon Jan 13, 2003 7:57 am

Yes, it will have to be digitized if you are to edit on computer.

Infact Jukka himself who posted those two excellent clips (now you should have a very good idea of how nice K40 will look with your Bauer camera!) runs a super-8 transfer business using the excellent Moviestuff Workprinter

http://moviestuff.tv/transfers.html

Post by **jukkasil** » Mon Jan 13, 2003 8:40 am

CleanCut wrote:Wow, very nice footage! The second vid was amazing! Again, thanks everyone for the help. Sorry about all the newbie questions :oops: You said that vision 200T will have to go through telecline, but doesnt the k40 also have too if i want to edit on a computer? Also, I'm goig to be shooting very fast motion when i start off, is k40 too slow? Or does film speed just depend on what type of lighting you have?

I also recommend to use some of Roger's Workprinter-models or his own transfer service. More mpg-examples you can find from my web-site (check my signature) from "examples"-page. If you want to see fast motion footage, just check that workprinter transfer service demo file (very big one, over 5 minutes long).

K40 film is absolutely the best film type to use outdoors (are you planning to shoot biking or?), when you have lot of light.

Also your camera has f1.2 lens, which is one of the best lens in super 8 area, so you wouldn't have any problem.

What you have to do is use 24 fps (not 18 fps) or even sometimes 40 fps (slow motion) to shoot fast motion better with that camera.

Post by **CleanCut** » Mon Jan 13, 2003 5:07 pm

Ok, so k40 is the film for me! Yes, I'm shooting biking, and just some other scenic stuff around here. The workprinter stuff looks great so I'll definately check that out. Thanks!

Tam

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Jan 13, 2003 5:22 pm

Hi, I agree with the last but one post,I would advice anyone shooting film to run at 24fps.....
K40 is the film for you, you dont need faster film to record faster action as shutter speed remains just the iris changes.
If you require the grainy image look then go for 200asa or 500 asa neg stock,you will need an ND filter on the camera
and will have to read up on notching the cartridge for the cameras auto exposure to work correctly...

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